Cold spell still likely
Generally quiet conditions are expected to persist across much of the UK
during the first half of this week as high pressure remains anchored to the
west of the UK. The first signs of change begin to shape up during the
second half of the week as colder air begins to sink southwards. By the
weekend it should be cold enough for some snow showers over high ground in
Scotland and possibly northern areas, with frost developing quite widely at
night where skies clear.
The real fun looks set to begin next week as we head towards what we still
think will be a colder spell of weather during the middle of the month. A
significant northerly plunge is expected, and this looks like lasting long
enough to flood some cold air down across most of the UK, giving an
increasing risk of snow showers even on lower ground in the north. If this
spell lasts long enough, and the upper level air is cold enough, and the
winds back into a north easterly direction, then some sleet or snow showers
may begin to fall over lowers ground in eastern parts of England too.

Source: TWO.

My Comment:
Note my question mark in the subject column. I
am relying more on Darren's forecasts. It still seems very much in the
balance.


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On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:12:31 -0000, "Gavin Staples"
wrote:


The real fun looks set to begin next week as we head towards what we still
think will be a colder spell of weather during the middle of the month. A
significant northerly plunge is expected, and this looks like lasting long
enough to flood some cold air down across most of the UK, giving an
increasing risk of snow showers even on lower ground in the north. If this
spell lasts long enough, and the upper level air is cold enough, and the
winds back into a north easterly direction, then some sleet or snow showers
may begin to fall over lowers ground in eastern parts of England too.

And IF your astronomical chart is right this week, and IF the moon is
blue, and IF a squadron of pigs flies past your window ...............
;-)

Sorry, couldn't resist - it's just that there seem to be a few
(understandable) provisos in that forecast. :-)

"phil" wrote in message
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On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:12:31 -0000, "Gavin Staples"
wrote:


The real fun looks set to begin next week as we head towards what we
still
think will be a colder spell of weather during the middle of the month. A
significant northerly plunge is expected, and this looks like lasting
long
enough to flood some cold air down across most of the UK, giving an
increasing risk of snow showers even on lower ground in the north. If
this
spell lasts long enough, and the upper level air is cold enough, and the
winds back into a north easterly direction, then some sleet or snow
showers
may begin to fall over lowers ground in eastern parts of England too.

And IF your astronomical chart is right this week, and IF the moon is
blue, and IF a squadron of pigs flies past your window ...............
;-)

Sorry, couldn't resist - it's just that there seem to be a few
(understandable) provisos in that forecast. :-)


exactly. I just wanted to see what others had to say. There are far too many
ifs. If we do get a cold spell, it will be quick and sudden and not forecast
too far in advance.

I see a repeat of last winters trends at the moment. The elusive cold snap
is alway at T+144, but T+144 never gets here. The only thing in our favour
(cold weather wishers), is that maybe by the time it does get here it will
be January 2005 :-)

Keith (Southend)
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http://www.southendweather.net
e-mail: keith_harris9athotmail.com

"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
...
Cold spell still likely
Generally quiet conditions are expected to persist across much of the UK
during the first half of this week as high pressure remains anchored to
the
west of the UK. The first signs of change begin to shape up during the
second half of the week as colder air begins to sink southwards. By the
weekend it should be cold enough for some snow showers over high ground in
Scotland and possibly northern areas, with frost developing quite widely
at
night where skies clear.
The real fun looks set to begin next week as we head towards what we still
think will be a colder spell of weather during the middle of the month. A
significant northerly plunge is expected, and this looks like lasting long
enough to flood some cold air down across most of the UK, giving an
increasing risk of snow showers even on lower ground in the north. If this
spell lasts long enough, and the upper level air is cold enough, and the
winds back into a north easterly direction, then some sleet or snow
showers
may begin to fall over lowers ground in eastern parts of England too.

Source: TWO.

My Comment:
Note my question mark in the subject column. I
am relying more on Darren's forecasts. It still seems very much in the
balance.


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The cold snap always does seem to be on the charts this time of year at
T+144, but this one is approaching readily. I think there is a good chance
that eastern areas such as Newcastle, as far down as Hull, and most of
Scotland will see wintry conditions this weekend, mostly on the Saturday.

Mike

www.dudleyweather.angelcities.com
"keith.r.harris" wrote in message
...
I see a repeat of last winters trends at the moment. The elusive cold snap
is alway at T+144, but T+144 never gets here. The only thing in our favour
(cold weather wishers), is that maybe by the time it does get here it will
be January 2005 :-)

Keith (Southend)
--
'Weather Home & Abroad'
http://www.southendweather.net
e-mail: keith_harris9athotmail.com

"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
...
Cold spell still likely
Generally quiet conditions are expected to persist across much of the UK
during the first half of this week as high pressure remains anchored to
the
west of the UK. The first signs of change begin to shape up during the
second half of the week as colder air begins to sink southwards. By the
weekend it should be cold enough for some snow showers over high ground
in
Scotland and possibly northern areas, with frost developing quite widely
at
night where skies clear.
The real fun looks set to begin next week as we head towards what we
still
think will be a colder spell of weather during the middle of the month.
A
significant northerly plunge is expected, and this looks like lasting
long
enough to flood some cold air down across most of the UK, giving an
increasing risk of snow showers even on lower ground in the north. If
this
spell lasts long enough, and the upper level air is cold enough, and the
winds back into a north easterly direction, then some sleet or snow
showers
may begin to fall over lowers ground in eastern parts of England too.

Source: TWO.

My Comment:
Note my question mark in the subject column.
I
am relying more on Darren's forecasts. It still seems very much in the
balance.


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"Michael Di Bernardo" wrote in
message ...
The cold snap always does seem to be on the charts this time of year at
T+144, but this one is approaching readily. I think there is a good
chance
that eastern areas such as Newcastle, as far down as Hull, and most of
Scotland will see wintry conditions this weekend, mostly on the
Saturday.

Mike


Hi Mike,

I wish most forecasters could see as clearly as you at the moment, as
there is real uncertainty even at day 4/5.

Things should become slightly clearer when the trough approaching from the
NW (which will clear most of this SAD sufferers' nightmare cloud away)
decides whether or not it will disrupt over S England or over N France
late tomorrow evening.

Joe

I think you are going to be extremely disappointed this year, and in years
to come Gavin.
BTW, just look at the sub 48 hour charts... things come into line then. ..
e.g. less extreme setups, summer or winter.
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"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
...
Cold spell still likely
Generally quiet conditions are expected to persist across much of the UK
during the first half of this week as high pressure remains anchored to
the
west of the UK. The first signs of change begin to shape up during the
second half of the week as colder air begins to sink southwards. By the
weekend it should be cold enough for some snow showers over high ground in
Scotland and possibly northern areas, with frost developing quite widely
at
night where skies clear.
The real fun looks set to begin next week as we head towards what we still
think will be a colder spell of weather during the middle of the month. A
significant northerly plunge is expected, and this looks like lasting long
enough to flood some cold air down across most of the UK, giving an
increasing risk of snow showers even on lower ground in the north. If this
spell lasts long enough, and the upper level air is cold enough, and the
winds back into a north easterly direction, then some sleet or snow
showers
may begin to fall over lowers ground in eastern parts of England too.

Source: TWO.

My Comment:
Note my question mark in the subject column. I
am relying more on Darren's forecasts. It still seems very much in the
balance.


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I would expect some wintry showers on high ground in the north, ie above
1000 feet.
As for low ground and southern areas, a bit fresher, but cold ? No way. Max.
at Haytor expected to be 7-8 deg C.

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"Joe Hunt" wrote in message
...

"Michael Di Bernardo" wrote in
message ...
The cold snap always does seem to be on the charts this time of year at
T+144, but this one is approaching readily. I think there is a good
chance
that eastern areas such as Newcastle, as far down as Hull, and most of
Scotland will see wintry conditions this weekend, mostly on the
Saturday.

Mike


Hi Mike,

I wish most forecasters could see as clearly as you at the moment, as
there is real uncertainty even at day 4/5.

Things should become slightly clearer when the trough approaching from the
NW (which will clear most of this SAD sufferers' nightmare cloud away)
decides whether or not it will disrupt over S England or over N France
late tomorrow evening.

Joe

"danny\(West Kent\)" wrote
in :

I think you are going to be extremely disappointed this year, and in
years to come Gavin.

Ahh! Our resident cold weather pessimist. Winter wouldn't be the same
without you

Richard

The finalised T+120 is notably colder than the earlier T+132 :-

T+120 http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de/pics/brack4.gif

T+132 http://imkpc3.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de/pics/brack4a.gif

More oscillations to come, no doubt.

Jon.