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"Martin Crozier" wrote in message ...
Colin

It seems that some new records have been set in the past 24 hours -
http://www.terradaily.com/2005/05030....3to5ksvv.html

The quoted figure for Berchtesgarten of minus 43.6 seems to be well below
the figures you mention for Bavaria - it looks a bit suspect to me unless
the station is at altitude. My hazy memories of the place are of a pleasant
lakeside village, which, although surrounded by mountains, wouldn't seem to
be a serious frost hollow. Do you have any info from more reliable sources
on this?

Martin
Guernsey


IIRC, the 'Berchtesgarten' site is actually an experimental site in an
extreme frost hollow (enclosed depression at high elevation). This
came up when they had their -46 a few years ago.

Blair

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"Martin Crozier" wrote in message ...
Colin

It seems that some new records have been set in the past 24 hours -
http://www.terradaily.com/2005/05030....3to5ksvv.html

The quoted figure for Berchtesgarten of minus 43.6 seems to be well below
the figures you mention for Bavaria - it looks a bit suspect to me unless
the station is at altitude. My hazy memories of the place are of a pleasant
lakeside village, which, although surrounded by mountains, wouldn't seem to
be a serious frost hollow. Do you have any info from more reliable sources
on this?

Martin
Guernsey


IIRC, the 'Berchtesgarten' site is actually an experimental site in an
extreme frost hollow (enclosed depression at high elevation). This
came up when they had their -46 a few years ago.

Blair
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"Martin Crozier" wrote in message ...
Colin

It seems that some new records have been set in the past 24 hours -
http://www.terradaily.com/2005/05030....3to5ksvv.html

The quoted figure for Berchtesgarten of minus 43.6 seems to be well below
the figures you mention for Bavaria - it looks a bit suspect to me unless
the station is at altitude. My hazy memories of the place are of a pleasant
lakeside village, which, although surrounded by mountains, wouldn't seem to
be a serious frost hollow. Do you have any info from more reliable sources
on this?

Martin
Guernsey


IIRC, the 'Berchtesgarten' site is actually an experimental site in an
extreme frost hollow (enclosed depression at high elevation). This
came up when they had their -46 a few years ago.

Blair
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The quoted figure for Berchtesgarten of minus 43.6 seems to be well below
the figures you mention for Bavaria - it looks a bit suspect to me unless
the station is at altitude. My hazy memories of the place are of a
pleasant lakeside village, which, although surrounded by mountains,
wouldn't seem to be a serious frost hollow. Do you have any info from
more reliable sources on this?

Martin


Assuming that you are actually talking about Berchtesgaden ('d' not 'rt' in
the middle) then my impression was of a lakeside village gloomily enclosed
by very steep mountains very close to the lake shore, and I would not be
surprised if it is a frost pocket.

Anne


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The quoted figure for Berchtesgarten of minus 43.6 seems to be well below
the figures you mention for Bavaria - it looks a bit suspect to me unless
the station is at altitude. My hazy memories of the place are of a
pleasant lakeside village, which, although surrounded by mountains,
wouldn't seem to be a serious frost hollow. Do you have any info from
more reliable sources on this?

Martin


Assuming that you are actually talking about Berchtesgaden ('d' not 'rt' in
the middle) then my impression was of a lakeside village gloomily enclosed
by very steep mountains very close to the lake shore, and I would not be
surprised if it is a frost pocket.

Anne




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The quoted figure for Berchtesgarten of minus 43.6 seems to be well below
the figures you mention for Bavaria - it looks a bit suspect to me unless
the station is at altitude. My hazy memories of the place are of a
pleasant lakeside village, which, although surrounded by mountains,
wouldn't seem to be a serious frost hollow. Do you have any info from
more reliable sources on this?

Martin


Assuming that you are actually talking about Berchtesgaden ('d' not 'rt' in
the middle) then my impression was of a lakeside village gloomily enclosed
by very steep mountains very close to the lake shore, and I would not be
surprised if it is a frost pocket.

Anne


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The quoted figure for Berchtesgarten of minus 43.6 seems to be well below
the figures you mention for Bavaria - it looks a bit suspect to me unless
the station is at altitude. My hazy memories of the place are of a
pleasant lakeside village, which, although surrounded by mountains,
wouldn't seem to be a serious frost hollow. Do you have any info from
more reliable sources on this?

Martin


Assuming that you are actually talking about Berchtesgaden ('d' not 'rt' in
the middle) then my impression was of a lakeside village gloomily enclosed
by very steep mountains very close to the lake shore, and I would not be
surprised if it is a frost pocket.

Anne


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Martin Crozier wrote:

Colin

It seems that some new records have been set in the past 24 hours -
http://www.terradaily.com/2005/05030....3to5ksvv.html

The quoted figure for Berchtesgarten of minus 43.6 seems to be well below
the figures you mention for Bavaria - it looks a bit suspect to me unless
the station is at altitude. My hazy memories of the place are of a pleasant
lakeside village, which, although surrounded by mountains, wouldn't seem to
be a serious frost hollow. Do you have any info from more reliable sources
on this?


An office mate comes from Bavaria and even he agrees that it's been very
cold there. He's spent the last two weeks berating us British people for
our inability to cope with a litle bit of snow!

--
Jonathan Stott
Canterbury Weather: http://www.canterburyweather.co.uk/




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Martin Crozier wrote:

Colin

It seems that some new records have been set in the past 24 hours -
http://www.terradaily.com/2005/05030....3to5ksvv.html

The quoted figure for Berchtesgarten of minus 43.6 seems to be well below
the figures you mention for Bavaria - it looks a bit suspect to me unless
the station is at altitude. My hazy memories of the place are of a pleasant
lakeside village, which, although surrounded by mountains, wouldn't seem to
be a serious frost hollow. Do you have any info from more reliable sources
on this?


An office mate comes from Bavaria and even he agrees that it's been very
cold there. He's spent the last two weeks berating us British people for
our inability to cope with a litle bit of snow!

--
Jonathan Stott
Canterbury Weather: http://www.canterburyweather.co.uk/






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Martin Crozier wrote:

Colin

It seems that some new records have been set in the past 24 hours -
http://www.terradaily.com/2005/05030....3to5ksvv.html

The quoted figure for Berchtesgarten of minus 43.6 seems to be well below
the figures you mention for Bavaria - it looks a bit suspect to me unless
the station is at altitude. My hazy memories of the place are of a pleasant
lakeside village, which, although surrounded by mountains, wouldn't seem to
be a serious frost hollow. Do you have any info from more reliable sources
on this?


An office mate comes from Bavaria and even he agrees that it's been very
cold there. He's spent the last two weeks berating us British people for
our inability to cope with a litle bit of snow!

--
Jonathan Stott
Canterbury Weather: http://www.canterburyweather.co.uk/






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