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Steve Loft wrote:
Gianna Stefani wrote:

I was unsure about your last point so I have checked ... from W3C ...

1.2.1 Elements and attributes

Element names are written in uppercase letters (e.g., BODY). Attribute
names are written in lowercase letters (e.g., lang, onsubmit). Recall
that in HTML, element and attribute names are case-insensitive; the
convention is meant to encourage readability.



I find this proliferation of standards very confusing. I believe that
you are quoting from the HTML 4 spec. The XHTML spec states:

4.2. Element and attribute names must be in lower case

XHTML documents must use lower case for all HTML element and attribute
names. This difference is necessary because XML is case-sensitive e.g.
li and LI are different tags.


Confusing is the word!
You are (virtually) correct - I quoted from the HTML 4.01 spec.

Thanks for the clarification ... fortunately I only use HTML 4.01 of the
above options. I have updated my program to comply with that
recommendation so any future creations will be more readable (except
almost no-one looks at the code anyway LOL).

This is not unlike coding software, with C++ being case sensitive, and
Pascal case insensitive, even though both environments are from the same
company. Stronzi (-;

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"Adrian D. Shaw" wrote in message
...
Felly sgrifennodd Rob :
Neat little app thanks - Konqueror fine as you say. But still no good

with
Mozilla or Firefox under Fedora. (No luck of course with the Microsoft
platforms, either...)


OK fixed: It was indeed Microsoft's fault (and Firefox's come to that);
the JavaScript has to be opened with the line "script type='JavaScript'"
accodring to the standards. However, it seems that MSIE and Firefox
only recognise the deprecated "script language='JavaScript'". Hence
I cannot write a valid XHTML page for IE and Firefox users (and I like
to write valid code!).

So for non-compliant browsers, use this page:

http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais/wimages2.html

What a shame Microsoft couldn't tell me in the error message:
"Error in MSIE; your code is correct" instead of blaming me for it!

Adrian

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Adrian, yes indeed! Thanks for all your latest tweaks - you have provided a
novel and informative addition to my bookmarks. Much appreciated.

Rob


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"Adrian D. Shaw" wrote in message
...
Felly sgrifennodd Rob :
Neat little app thanks - Konqueror fine as you say. But still no good

with
Mozilla or Firefox under Fedora. (No luck of course with the Microsoft
platforms, either...)


OK fixed: It was indeed Microsoft's fault (and Firefox's come to that);
the JavaScript has to be opened with the line "script type='JavaScript'"
accodring to the standards. However, it seems that MSIE and Firefox
only recognise the deprecated "script language='JavaScript'". Hence
I cannot write a valid XHTML page for IE and Firefox users (and I like
to write valid code!).

So for non-compliant browsers, use this page:

http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais/wimages2.html

What a shame Microsoft couldn't tell me in the error message:
"Error in MSIE; your code is correct" instead of blaming me for it!

Adrian

--


Adrian, yes indeed! Thanks for all your latest tweaks - you have provided a
novel and informative addition to my bookmarks. Much appreciated.

Rob


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"Adrian D. Shaw" wrote in message
...
Felly sgrifennodd Rob :
Neat little app thanks - Konqueror fine as you say. But still no good

with
Mozilla or Firefox under Fedora. (No luck of course with the Microsoft
platforms, either...)


OK fixed: It was indeed Microsoft's fault (and Firefox's come to that);
the JavaScript has to be opened with the line "script type='JavaScript'"
accodring to the standards. However, it seems that MSIE and Firefox
only recognise the deprecated "script language='JavaScript'". Hence
I cannot write a valid XHTML page for IE and Firefox users (and I like
to write valid code!).

So for non-compliant browsers, use this page:

http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais/wimages2.html

What a shame Microsoft couldn't tell me in the error message:
"Error in MSIE; your code is correct" instead of blaming me for it!

Adrian

--


Adrian, yes indeed! Thanks for all your latest tweaks - you have provided a
novel and informative addition to my bookmarks. Much appreciated.

Rob


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"Adrian D. Shaw" wrote in message
...
Felly sgrifennodd Rob :
Neat little app thanks - Konqueror fine as you say. But still no good

with
Mozilla or Firefox under Fedora. (No luck of course with the Microsoft
platforms, either...)


OK fixed: It was indeed Microsoft's fault (and Firefox's come to that);
the JavaScript has to be opened with the line "script type='JavaScript'"
accodring to the standards. However, it seems that MSIE and Firefox
only recognise the deprecated "script language='JavaScript'". Hence
I cannot write a valid XHTML page for IE and Firefox users (and I like
to write valid code!).

So for non-compliant browsers, use this page:

http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais/wimages2.html

What a shame Microsoft couldn't tell me in the error message:
"Error in MSIE; your code is correct" instead of blaming me for it!

Adrian

--


Adrian, yes indeed! Thanks for all your latest tweaks - you have provided a
novel and informative addition to my bookmarks. Much appreciated.

Rob




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It now all works, for all popular browsers, I hope, at
http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais/wimages.html


Seems OK in Firefox, thank you, Adrian. The 'On 4' button is most
useful.


I have my copy of Firefox set to not show adverts so something in the
link is falling foul of that, as the image doesn't show. But if I click
on the invisible image and follow a block of links from there, I get a
column of images I can scroll.

Maybe this will cure it one day:
http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/Netscap...2.html?tag=top

Downside: AOL/Netscape's motivation for releasing a Mozilla-style
browser is clear:

Recapture lost surfers and send them back to the Netscape portal over
and over and over again.

Hence, the Netscape browser has a whole lot of Netscape marketing going
on.

An otherwise nifty temperature window on the browser takes you only to
Netscape's weather center...
Outlook:

Given this browser's unique talent--rendering in two different engines
--a future public release will make life easier for millions of surfers.

The browser wars are indeed heating up again, with Internet Explorer
losing its dominant market share little by little each month.

Whether Netscape maintains its status as the best alternative to
Internet Explorer depends on continued support from AOL Time Warner,
user acceptance, and luck. Microsoft recently announced plans to release
Internet Explorer 7.0 in the summer of 2005, promising many features
similar to Netscape's.


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"Peter Thomas" wrote in message


It now all works, for all popular browsers, I hope, at
http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais/wimages.html


Seems OK in Firefox, thank you, Adrian. The 'On 4' button is most
useful.


I have my copy of Firefox set to not show adverts so something in the
link is falling foul of that, as the image doesn't show. But if I click
on the invisible image and follow a block of links from there, I get a
column of images I can scroll.

Maybe this will cure it one day:
http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/Netscap...2.html?tag=top

Downside: AOL/Netscape's motivation for releasing a Mozilla-style
browser is clear:

Recapture lost surfers and send them back to the Netscape portal over
and over and over again.

Hence, the Netscape browser has a whole lot of Netscape marketing going
on.

An otherwise nifty temperature window on the browser takes you only to
Netscape's weather center...
Outlook:

Given this browser's unique talent--rendering in two different engines
--a future public release will make life easier for millions of surfers.

The browser wars are indeed heating up again, with Internet Explorer
losing its dominant market share little by little each month.

Whether Netscape maintains its status as the best alternative to
Internet Explorer depends on continued support from AOL Time Warner,
user acceptance, and luck. Microsoft recently announced plans to release
Internet Explorer 7.0 in the summer of 2005, promising many features
similar to Netscape's.


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"Peter Thomas" wrote in message


It now all works, for all popular browsers, I hope, at
http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais/wimages.html


Seems OK in Firefox, thank you, Adrian. The 'On 4' button is most
useful.


I have my copy of Firefox set to not show adverts so something in the
link is falling foul of that, as the image doesn't show. But if I click
on the invisible image and follow a block of links from there, I get a
column of images I can scroll.

Maybe this will cure it one day:
http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/Netscap...2.html?tag=top

Downside: AOL/Netscape's motivation for releasing a Mozilla-style
browser is clear:

Recapture lost surfers and send them back to the Netscape portal over
and over and over again.

Hence, the Netscape browser has a whole lot of Netscape marketing going
on.

An otherwise nifty temperature window on the browser takes you only to
Netscape's weather center...
Outlook:

Given this browser's unique talent--rendering in two different engines
--a future public release will make life easier for millions of surfers.

The browser wars are indeed heating up again, with Internet Explorer
losing its dominant market share little by little each month.

Whether Netscape maintains its status as the best alternative to
Internet Explorer depends on continued support from AOL Time Warner,
user acceptance, and luck. Microsoft recently announced plans to release
Internet Explorer 7.0 in the summer of 2005, promising many features
similar to Netscape's.


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"Peter Thomas" wrote in message


It now all works, for all popular browsers, I hope, at
http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais/wimages.html


Seems OK in Firefox, thank you, Adrian. The 'On 4' button is most
useful.


I have my copy of Firefox set to not show adverts so something in the
link is falling foul of that, as the image doesn't show. But if I click
on the invisible image and follow a block of links from there, I get a
column of images I can scroll.

Maybe this will cure it one day:
http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/Netscap...2.html?tag=top

Downside: AOL/Netscape's motivation for releasing a Mozilla-style
browser is clear:

Recapture lost surfers and send them back to the Netscape portal over
and over and over again.

Hence, the Netscape browser has a whole lot of Netscape marketing going
on.

An otherwise nifty temperature window on the browser takes you only to
Netscape's weather center...
Outlook:

Given this browser's unique talent--rendering in two different engines
--a future public release will make life easier for millions of surfers.

The browser wars are indeed heating up again, with Internet Explorer
losing its dominant market share little by little each month.

Whether Netscape maintains its status as the best alternative to
Internet Explorer depends on continued support from AOL Time Warner,
user acceptance, and luck. Microsoft recently announced plans to release
Internet Explorer 7.0 in the summer of 2005, promising many features
similar to Netscape's.


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Felly sgrifennodd Michael Mcneil :
I have my copy of Firefox set to not show adverts so something in the
link is falling foul of that, as the image doesn't show.


There's nothing I can do about Firefox's inability to distinguish between
adverts and genuine pages I'm afraid.

I suspect Firefox is detecting JavaScript writing to an "img" object and
blocking that. On the other hand it might be blocking images coming from
a different server to the original page (which would be pretty dumb as a
lot of genuine pages link to images from elsewhere).

But if I click
on the invisible image and follow a block of links from there, I get a
column of images I can scroll.


The image is a link to the BBC web site; what you're seeing is the BBC's
archive of the last 30 images.

Adrian


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