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Just for the Google record this is what the TWO senior forecaster Brian Gaze
said today Sunday 12 Dec on his website www.theweatheroutlook.com

" The long spell of settled weather is set to end next week as high pressure is
pushed out of way atlantic frontal systems. This will bring a spell of more
unsettled and mobile weather for a time with fluctuating temperatures. Another
significant change is then expected during the third week of the month with much
colder conditions pushing down across the UK. This is what our own long range
forecast suggested at the beginning of December, and it now being backed up by
some of the global medium range forecasting models. With this level of agreement
we are confident of this happening. The real problem is forecasting exactly when
the coldest weather will envelop the UK and whether it will coincide with
Christmas. At the moment our view is the chances of a the UK having a white
christmas this year are significantly better than average. Brian Gaze,
TheWeatherOutlook's senior forecaster said, "The second half of December looks
set to bring a taste of winter to the UK and after the recent mild and settled
conditions this may well come as a shock to many people. We think snow may well
fall in large parts of the UK with northern and eastern areas likely to see the
most. "

and this is what MetCheck were saying on Andrew Bond's homepage www.metcheck.com
on Sat 11th

" Just two weeks to go until the big day and all eyes are on the latest weather
models with regards to the chance of seeing snowfall on Christmas day.
At present, there is a pretty good chance for many areas not just to see snow
over the Christmas period, but also in the run up too.

The situation is pretty volatile at present, however all the ensemble forecasts
predict a return to cold cyclonic conditions with frequent Northerly spells. The
first of the cold spells is expected towards the end of this week, the
uncertainty then begins, due to problems handling a new development off the East
coast of America the GFS continues a return to cyclonic conditions, however this
is very low confidence as many of the ensemble forecasts still go for another
Northerly over Christmas. "

And what are the Met Office www.metoffice.gov.uk saying - well they are keeping
schtum !

" Each year, as Christmas draws near, the nation wonders if we'll see snow on 25
December. Discover the origins of this obsession and when snow has fallen in
recent years...
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And what are the Met Office www.metoffice.gov.uk saying - well they
are keeping
schtum !

" Each year, as Christmas draws near, the nation wonders if we'll see
snow on 25
December. Discover the origins of this obsession and when snow has
fallen in
recent years...
"


... actually, I thought Isobel was quite plucky on the 'Countryfile'
forecast just now - almost ruling out anything of significance: which
presumably was cleared with the head honcho?

Martin.



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.. actually, I thought Isobel was quite plucky on the 'Countryfile'
forecast just now - almost ruling out anything of significance: which
presumably was cleared with the head honcho?


I though that was rather rash to be honest.
She was effectively making a forecast for a day still 13 days in the future.
At any other time of the year the CF forecast would never dream of sticking
it's neck out like that. I really hope the Met Office haven't been sucked into
this silly game of White Christmas forecasting that certain other forecasting
organisations have been playing.

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not really, because when it turns zonal, i think it's possible to see
the trends further ahead.

Big Azores high riding north-east, deep lows to the north of the high,
it's hard to see why any decent cold is going to come from, until
another pattern change

I reckon Isobel is on fairly safe ground myself.

It'll be Mr Bond and Mr Gaze with some explaining to do later on IMO

Honestly, i expect to see those two making predictions in a hut at the
fair when it comes to town

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Hey look, GFS FI changes it's mind again.

Like giving a confiscated toy back to the baby, i guess the snow
ramping is back on again, till the next
GFS update !!

I think it's human intervention.

And of course, the big swings from one run to the next shows that
people should not believe what they
show whether it's mild, cold or indifferent !!



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There's no business like snow business,what a load of cobblers those GFS
long so called forecasts are ,what is the difference between their wildly
varying day to day efforts and Two's unscientific guesses ?.

Bah !

RonB
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oups.com...
Hey look, GFS FI changes it's mind again.

Like giving a confiscated toy back to the baby, i guess the snow
ramping is back on again, till the next
GFS update !!

I think it's human intervention.

And of course, the big swings from one run to the next shows that
people should not believe what they
show whether it's mild, cold or indifferent !!





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