In my local garden centre I saw a very nice climber which had small bluebell
like flowers. I'd not seen it before although it said "grown in the UK since
Victorian times". What surprised me was that it said it was "Frost hardy to
2C". I would have called that frost tender.
Also, the forecaster on News 24 (Jay?)said that today's rainfall would be
beneficial to gardens in the SE and also help the resevoirs. I wouldn't have
thought it would make much difference to either if there is only the
predicted 5-10mm.

Dave

"Dave.C" wrote in message
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In my local garden centre I saw a very nice climber which had small bluebell
like flowers. I'd not seen it before although it said "grown in the UK since
Victorian times". What surprised me was that it said it was "Frost hardy to
2C". I would have called that frost tender.

They probably meant what Philip calls 2 deg. C, in other words hardy
to two degrees of frost viz. -2C.

Also, the forecaster on News 24 (Jay?)said that today's rainfall would be
beneficial to gardens in the SE and also help the reservoirs. I wouldn't
have
thought it would make much difference to either if there is only the
predicted 5-10mm.

If you compare the area of land not covered by reservoirs with the area
covered by them, and assume all the land drains into the reservoirs, then
multiplying 10mm by that ratio, I reckon all the reservoirs would overflow :-)

Cheers, Alastair.

In article ,
Alastair McDonald k
writes:

"Dave.C" wrote in message
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Also, the forecaster on News 24 (Jay?)said that today's rainfall would be
beneficial to gardens in the SE and also help the reservoirs. I wouldn't
have
thought it would make much difference to either if there is only the
predicted 5-10mm.

It will help, but only a little.


If you compare the area of land not covered by reservoirs with the area
covered by them, and assume all the land drains into the reservoirs, then
multiplying 10mm by that ratio, I reckon all the reservoirs would overflow :-)



If it worked like that, then we'd never have a problem. But once you
consider the limited catchment areas of the reservoirs, and what is lost
to evaporation, transpiration by plants, and percolation, then I'd guess
that you'd have to multiply in another factor of at least 0.00001. (Or
pedantically "at most" rather than "at least", but you know what I
mean.) No doubt the water engineers will have done the calculation. Of
course, the factor will vary a lot depending on the time of year and the
weather.
--
John Hall

"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)

"Dave.C" wrote in message
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In my local garden centre I saw a very nice climber which had small
bluebell
like flowers. I'd not seen it before although it said "grown in the UK
since
Victorian times". What surprised me was that it said it was "Frost hardy
to
2C". I would have called that frost tender.
Also, the forecaster on News 24 (Jay?)said that today's rainfall would be
beneficial to gardens in the SE and also help the resevoirs. I wouldn't
have
thought it would make much difference to either if there is only the
predicted 5-10mm.

Dave

Dave,

In case the name wasn't shown, the plant is called Sollya Heterophylla and
is absolutely beautiful. I grow it in a large pot and just put it inside
in the winter. I would call it a tender plant! People in the south west
of England would probably have it outside all year.

Best wishes
Iris McCanna

1.8mm for me at Southend-on-Sea !

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net

Also, the forecaster on News 24 (Jay?)said that today's rainfall would be
beneficial to gardens in the SE and also help the reservoirs. I wouldn't
have
thought it would make much difference to either if there is only the
predicted 5-10mm.

If you compare the area of land not covered by reservoirs with the area
covered by them, and assume all the land drains into the reservoirs, then
multiplying 10mm by that ratio, I reckon all the reservoirs would overflow :-)

Cheers, Alastair.

http://www.crocus.co.uk/search/pl/?C...726&CategoryID

Keith (Southend)

Well, if the catchment area of your reservoir is 10,000 times the size the
reservoir, that means it will rise by 18 m. That should be enough :-)

Cheers, Alastair.

"Keith (Southend)G" wrote in message
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1.8mm for me at Southend-on-Sea !

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net

Also, the forecaster on News 24 (Jay?)said that today's rainfall would
be
beneficial to gardens in the SE and also help the reservoirs. I wouldn't
have
thought it would make much difference to either if there is only the
predicted 5-10mm.

If you compare the area of land not covered by reservoirs with the area
covered by them, and assume all the land drains into the reservoirs, then
multiplying 10mm by that ratio, I reckon all the reservoirs would overflow
:-)

Cheers, Alastair.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:50:54 GMT, "Dave.C"
wrote:

In my local garden centre I saw a very nice climber which had small bluebell
like flowers. I'd not seen it before although it said "grown in the UK since
Victorian times". What surprised me was that it said it was "Frost hardy to
2C". I would have called that frost tender.
Also, the forecaster on News 24 (Jay?)said that today's rainfall would be
beneficial to gardens in the SE and also help the resevoirs. I wouldn't have
thought it would make much difference to either if there is only the
predicted 5-10mm.


You could have some more exotic flora in a few years' time, according to this:

http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=651912005

Green and pleasant land may warm to Mediterranean look

JOHN VON RADOWITZ

PARTS of England could resemble the Mediterranean scenes painted by Vincent Van
Gogh in 50 to 100 years, scientists say.

As climate change brings warmer, drier summers, olive groves, vines and fields
of sunflowers are likely to become common features of south-east England.
Experts doubt that the traditional country garden will survive in the southern
counties.

The rolling lawns and herbaceous borders that are so much a part of Hampshire,
Sussex and Kent may have to make way for palms, shrubs and eucalyptus, while
native woodlands of oak, beech, ash and Scots pine from Cornwall to Scotland
might be at risk.

Experts will discuss the impact of global warming on Britain's landscape at a
two-day conference starting today at the University of Surrey in Guildford.

They forecast that by 2050 summer temperatures in the south-east will be 1.5 to
3C warmer than today, while average summer rainfall could fall by 35 per cent.
If the current rate of warming continues, summers could be as much as 6C warmer
by the 2080s.

Professor Jeff Burley, director of the Oxford Forestry Institute at Oxford
University, said: "It's already happening - you can already see fields of
sunflowers. The scene is going to change."

_____________________

Martin



Dave

Thanks Iris, I think it would look quite nice as a backdrop to my new pond.
With the micro climate in this south facing corner it might even survive the
winter the way things are going.
..... and thanks Keith, I'm sure that will be cheaper than Summerhill
Nurseries!
Now, back to watering the garden after the 2 mm soaking!

Dave

In message , JPG
writes
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:50:54 GMT, "Dave.C"
wrote:

In my local garden centre I saw a very nice climber which had small bluebell
like flowers. I'd not seen it before although it said "grown in the UK since
Victorian times". What surprised me was that it said it was "Frost hardy to
2C". I would have called that frost tender.
Also, the forecaster on News 24 (Jay?)said that today's rainfall would be
beneficial to gardens in the SE and also help the resevoirs. I wouldn't have
thought it would make much difference to either if there is only the
predicted 5-10mm.


You could have some more exotic flora in a few years' time, according to this:

http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=651912005

Green and pleasant land may warm to Mediterranean look

JOHN VON RADOWITZ

PARTS of England could resemble the Mediterranean scenes painted by Vincent Van
Gogh in 50 to 100 years, scientists say.

As climate change brings warmer, drier summers, olive groves, vines and fields
of sunflowers are likely to become common features of south-east England.
Experts doubt that the traditional country garden will survive in the southern
counties.

The rolling lawns and herbaceous borders that are so much a part of Hampshire,
Sussex and Kent may have to make way for palms, shrubs and eucalyptus, while
native woodlands of oak, beech, ash and Scots pine from Cornwall to Scotland
might be at risk.

Experts will discuss the impact of global warming on Britain's landscape at a
two-day conference starting today at the University of Surrey in Guildford.

They forecast that by 2050 summer temperatures in the south-east will be 1.5 to
3C warmer than today, while average summer rainfall could fall by 35 per cent.
If the current rate of warming continues, summers could be as much as 6C warmer
by the 2080s.

I'd be interested to see the mean surface pressure and upper contour
patterns that go with these predictions. Warmer and drier suggests an
increase in the frequency of anticyclonic southerlies i.e. relatively
high pressure over the near continent. That might mean that further east
there would be a cooling due to a higher frequency of northerlies.

I have no problem with the theory that global warming will result in
climate change (and undoubtedly is already) but I have a lot of
difficulty in accepting that the subject is sufficiently well understood
to enable fairly detailed predictions of the changes that will occur at
a spot location (on a global scale SE England is a spot location).

Norman
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Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St Giles 85m a.s.l.
England