"lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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" The fact that parts (most?) of the British Isles have had an unusually
warm June proves nothing. Similarly, extremely warm conditions in
Finland proves nothing. Not so far away, Moscow had its coldest June
this year since 1941 but that doesn't prove global cooling As has
been reported in the past few days in this newsgroup, New Zealand has
been experiencing an unusually cold spell.

Also, despite the undoubted problems that will i



Several things.

The reason I mentioned Tuvalu was the fact they were, or still are
attempting to sue the USA and Australian goverment. Why you ask? Because
they said their small island was at risk of rising sea levels and the USA
and Australia were to blame. Of course the case didn't hold water (pun
intended) In fact the levels had dropped.
As we are living in an increasingly 'blame culture' society.
Where the louder a self interest group will shout and spin their apparent
plight, the more chattering class outfits like the Guardian,Independent
and
NYT will report it with hand wringing empathetic frenzy. As a result large
sums of international funding find a new home.

Neatly on ....
At first I thought it was the Independent on Sunday who published an
infamous gaff of Mr Meacher. but I was wrong.
Now Mr Meacher( recently sacked environment minister ) made a statement
in
the London Sunday Times and when you consider that this man has been the
darhlink of the Independent and Guardian for some time.It kind of devalues
the plausability of the arguments
This Meacher howler is an old chestnut now but still worth reading.

From August 2002 The Sunday Times. I bring you the truth

" Britain's Environment Minister Michael Meacher, who likes to berate the
U.S. for its backward stance on global warming, made a fool of himself in
the August 9 issue of the London Sunday Times. Here's an excerpt from the
interview:
Meacher: "I mean floods in Britain is one we are having to explain,
rising
sea levels, but in America quite serious things are happening, certainly
stronger hurricanes on the east coast which are to do with, what is the
name
of that hurricane that comes every 2-3 years?"

Interviewer: "They call them different names."

Meacher: "No, no, there is a name which is the Spanish word for a young
child, what is it called?"

Interviewer: El Niño."

Meacher: "The El Niño is becoming more frequent and more violent..".



There we are an experts view on El Niño .



Norman Lynagh sensibly cites the fact that Moscow had it's coldest June
since 1941 as an example of not getting too carried away with extremes.

But as we should all know by now that with the greenhouse lobby textreme
cold or extreme heat is a perfect example of global warming. So you can't
win.

A more sensible view would IMO be found here.

http://www.vision.net.au/~daly/christy.htm

Lawrence, for another view of what J. Daly has to say try
http://www.trump.net.au/~greenhou/. The word 'demolition' comes to mind.