ps sorry for giving you all too much to read, of you all spend your time
reading these articles there will be no postings to uk.sci.weather.

Stan

"Stanley Kellett" wrote in message
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"Gavin Staples" wrote in message
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Well done Steve. I quite agree with you. I am a believer of climatic
variation, which is what we are having at the moment. We just happen to
be
in a warming trend which is well within normal variations. In the period
1100 to 1500 the climate of this country was a great deal warmer than it
is
now. I wonder what the greenhouse fanatics would make of that.




I believe that the current global warming is caused by green house gases
but
here are a number of articles some backing up Steve and Gavins argument.
However the thing which points to man made emmisions is most of the
warming
is in the polar regions/ at night and in the winter months.

If solar then I believe most warming would occur during the summer months
and during the day, and in the sub-tropical regions.

Antartic sea ice breaking up see:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/314511.stm

Glacia retreat in Himalayas:
http://www.mtnforum.org/resources/library/bahaj98b.htm

Europes biggest glacier set to disintigrate, however evidence shows these
region was free of ice before 17th Century. backing up Steve and Gavin
see:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...386319,00.html

Evidence that although decreasing over 90% of Earth, Glaciers are
increasing
in some parts due to increased snow fall. Please note that these areas
have
warmed as well:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/st...5130%2C00.html

One researcher claims car exhaust product may actualy have a net cooling
effect
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_524431.html?menu=

An article which trys to disprove the fact that glaciers are retreating:
http://www.usefulinfo.co.uk/globalcl...c_glaciers.php

Another article which states that ice is in fact melting from Antartica

http://www.edie.net/gf.cfm?L=left_fr....net/news/Arch
ive/5027.cfm

Glaciers melting fast in Kazakhastan:

http://www.pentaclemagazine.org/php-...d&name=News&fi
le=article&sid=888

Global Climate change student guide:
http://www.doc.mmu.ac.uk/aric/gccsg/contents.html

more doom and gloom from a recent article on global warming:
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/stor...472&p=79x8yy78

An article looking if "Water World" is a possible scenario, which makes a
point at the end that a rise in temp might allow the glaciers in Antartica
to start growing due to increased moistu
http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town...r/earth/water/

I just thought I would send these links to show that if the Scientists are
confused about what is happening then it is no wonder we are. The only
thing
we can say is that we are putting pollutants into the atmosphere which we
know are needed in moderate amounts to keep the earth warm, but what will
happen if we keep pumping these into the atmosphere? Are these the reason
for the glacial retreat or as Steve and Gavin say due to natural variation
(solar or otherwise), but then again what is natural as our planet is not
in
the natural state we started with and in fact is constantly changing.

There are many other articles out there, I think most now support global
warming is mainly a greenhouse gas product, however what will be the
effects
in local areas? Will the climate just be a bit warmer or will there be
large
variations round a higher mean. There was also evidence that the Medeival
warm period was less stormy than now !

Just some food for thought Stan