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Old May 30th 04, 12:09 AM posted to sci.geo.meteorology
Dubs Dubs is offline
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Default some comments on "The day after tomorrow"

I'm intending to post this all in a separate new topic...

I actually saw this movie, in the actual theater. The reason I saw it
was mainly so that I could watch the spectacular weather CGI. I was
NOT disappointed. There was one scene, in which the residents of the
International Space Station (I think its the IIS anyway) look down and
several see gigantic cold hurricaines over the Northern hemisphere
made it worth my 5.75 matinee expenses (plus I snuck into troy). This
was a disaster film, and the script was often corny. Many things were
lame. However, I really enjoyed the actors, Dennis Quaid (like
harrison ford, but possibly a better actor), and the guy who played
Donnie Darko (the best performance of a wierd troubled teenager ever).
But I'm not here to do a real film review, I want to talk about
science. I was actually able to suspend my disbelief because the
movie presented a concept that was so foreign to me that I was unable
to really dispute it during the course of the film. I'm still not
sure what to think, tho I'd imagine the science is a little (or very)
hokey. Perhaps some of you gurus will enlighten me.

Be warned: A SPOILER FOLLOWS!!! As a weather geek, if further
discussion proves the film is indeed wrong and silly, you may not
attain the full level of Joy that I was. Also, Please forgive me for
any stupidity/ignorance I may exhibit in my explanation.

The root of the meteorology in this: Cold Hurricaines. Also there
are definitely a lot more presumptions than the 2 I cover in the
following...

Presumption #1 (the more hokey one, I think) It all begins when there
is a change in the salinity of one of the major currents in the
atlantic and also running throughout the world. I do have some vauge
recollection of such currents, but I'm a lot more interested in the
atmosphere than oceanic stuff. I also recall that salt water rises
and so presumably this alters the interplay of cold water The idea is
that there is a critical shift in the salinity at some point where
there is a confluence of currents. Suddenly, buoys all along the
length of the current off the coast of the East US and Greenland start
register 13 degree (F?) drops.

Presumption #2: Cold Hurricaines... IS THIS REALLY POSSIBLE? I'd
guess probably not, but who knows? The idea is that there are
gigantic storms that form all over the northern hemisphere (3 to 5).
The eyes of these hurricaines exhibit extreme freezing cold, to the
tune of -150 degrees (F?). Helicopters crash because of frozen fuel
lines and people freeze instantly. They form over Northern Canada and
Siberia and stuff, which sounds plausable enough. Has anybody ever
heard of such a concept?

Also, A month or two ago, the Defense Department released a report
which outlined a prediction that global warming would occur followed
by ANOTHER ICE AGE. I can't find the link, but it was on
cryptome.org. The report was intended to explore global strategy for
the US in such a situation.

Thanks,
Dubs