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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:06:59 +0100, "Alastair McDonald"
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Among scientists, global warming is no longer a question, said
Keeling.

"I've even come to accept it in the last five or six years," he said.
"The change has been greater than what would naturally occur."

"A large part of the educated world is pretty concerned," said
Keeling, who has a home in Hamilton. "The European community and Japan
are very concerned."

Only the United States is out of touch with the reality, he said.
Politicians, the media and the general public simply haven't decided
that global warming is real, or that it's dangerous.

He should have said "only the current Presidential Administration in
the United States is out of touch with reality" to be a little more
accurate. A lot of us here in the United States are NOT out of touch
with reality.

I think he was right about the general public, but wrong to confine it to
the US. Currently on the uk.sci.weather news group I seem to be the
only poster who recognises that the this year's flooding and last year's
record temperatures in the UK are symptoms of anthropogenic global
warming. The professional meteorologists, although accepting it is
part of global warming still cannot make up their minds that it is due to
carbon dioxide.

Please offer some definitive proof of this. As I've told you
repeatedly, individual weather events never have a single cause. If GW
is having an effect, you should have no trouble providing a clear
scientific basis for it. I'd be particularly interested in how you
feel GW and CO2 produced the excessive rain.

Jim,

And it is not just in the UK that weathermen are out of touch with reality. It
is true in Canada too!

Dave,

From a weatherman's POV the moist air rose from sea level to pass
over the Bodmin Moor, and the cooling caused the water vapour to
condense and fall as rain. The heavy rain on the moor was funneled
down by the river through a narrow gorge, which it had cut into the
cliffs. Te gorge was the site of a pretty fishing village. The flash flood
was impeded by a bridge over the river above the village. A small lake
formed upstread of the bridge which eventually gave way. When this
happend the surge of water burst the banks of the river and damaged
some of the building in the village.

From a climatologist's point of view, global warming has caused higher
sea surface temperatures which resulted in a greater frequency of hurricanes
during this season. Moeover, the warmer SST allowed a dying hurricane
to cross the Atlantic without losing its moisture. When Bonnie reached
Cornwall it deposited its remaining load, which was heavy enough to
bring down a road briidge. Basically, to put it in climatic terms, more
warming means more evaporation which means heavier rainfall.

Ten years ago British scientists were predicting more severe weather
for Britain due to global warming. We saw it two years ago and we are
seeing it again this year, not just in southern England but also in northern
Scotland where thre have been two incidents of motorist having to be
rescued from vehicles in flash flooding.

Of course you do not accept what I have written. But I thought I should
explain it for those who can understand these things. So for you Dave,
all I have got to say is "Now **** off!"

Cheers, Alastair.