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Old February 12th 05, 05:48 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy
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On 12 Feb 2005 04:36:47 -0800, wrote:


BillC wrote:


You're the fool, especially if you think the industrialized world is

going
to shut down on the basis of what are probably minor fluctuation that

may or
may not be be partly influenced by manmade emissions.


(...)

Of course, people aren't going to stop burning fossils fuels -
that is until they are gone, and that end is now in sight.


No it's not. Not even close. They're discovering new fields at the
same pace they always have. New technology is opening up access to
more fields. Other technologies are unlocking tar sands.

http://www.nanotech-now.com/nanocata...els-report.htm

Global production of oil, if it isn't peaking already,
will likely peak within the decade.


Not inside the current paradigm. China and India are in the take-off
stages of 'I Luv My Car':

http://biz.yahoo.com/cnw/041230/glob...o_sales_1.html

Coal and natural gas aren't far behind. The huge increases in demand in China
and India will assure the peak arrives sooner than you
might imagine.


Wishful thinking.

(increased consumption) ... Something that's
not possible as global production is currently maxed out.


No such thing. Iraqi oil fields alone are running at minimum
production. There's a new play off the SE coast of India, expanding
fields along the east bank of the Nile, the north Alaska slope on
hold.

We will likely double the current CO2 level before fossil fuels
became so scarce as to be irrelevant. We shall see what becomes
of our 'industrialized world' at that point.


Comic-book logic guy. You've fictioned a scenario to reach the end of
a story. "And they lived headedly every after."

You're the fool for not being willing to admit
the consequences of this explosive doubling of the CO2
level may be catastrophic.


The plodding increase of 2 ppm each year (guessing the Kyoto and
increased use keep current trends steady) means the doubling point is
reached in 80 years.

Instead of the catastrophe warning, how about thinking of the dirty,
coughing, stinky, garbage-littered, world that we live in between here
and there?



-Eric B