"owl" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:47:42 GMT, "Bill Habr"
wrote:

Are you aware the sun is a variable star? And the effect this has on the
climate of the earth?

Are you aware of plate tectonics? And are you aware of approximately how
long ago the continents arrived at roughly their current positions? And
are
you aware of why the current continental positions affect the climate
differently than previous positions?

Are you aware of the past climate (before 1970)?
Are you aware of the past anything (before 1970)?

There are many more questions but that will do for a start.

Apparantly not.

Is the water warmer than it was in the 1940s?
Is the water warmer than it was in the 1720?
How do you prove it is due to global warming ( which by the by, you seem
to
mean only how humans affect global warming) and not due to other factors
such as climate cycles? But if there is no before 1970 then there are no
cycles, right?
Before 1970 did we have the same number and strength of Atlantic
hurricanes?

After 1995 did we have the same number and strength of Atlantic
hurricanes?

Even if we humans do nothing to avert it?

Your attempt to frame a reply with nothing but childish questions (and
assumptions of answers that would support your position) reflects on
your lack of knowledge about AGW in general and hurricane issues
specifically.

However,

The Sun is about as stable as it gets, with only a very tiny variable
natu http://www.agu.org/revgeophys/reid00/node2.html

The 11-year sunspot activity and a weaker signal within can go as far
as contributing to a debatable global increase and decrease (the MWP
and the LIA).

Your question about awareness should be addressed to your bathroom
mirror.

Yes, the water is much warmer now - record highs (coral bleaching
increases in the last three decades). It is warmer than the 1940s and
the 1720s.

There's no requirement to 'prove' it was due to AGW. There's no need
to find the chicken or the the egg or 'prove' cause and effect.

Recognize the chemistry and physics of AGW and factor a contribution.
If you say it's not involved,


I haven't said it wasn't involved.

I have merely implied that there are other factors, factors you seem to
deny.


Pehaps you should ask Lloyd why he thinks the ONLY possible alternatives are
Kingons or magic beans.