Coby Beck wrote:
"James Annan" wrote in message
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Coby Beck wrote:
"James Annan" wrote in message
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Well Roger Pielke Jnr did applaud James Glassman of TCS when the latter
said:
"Katrina has nothing to do with global warming. Nothing."
which seems to me to be near enough the same thing - but perhaps you
exclude RPJnr from your list of "hurricane scientists"? I wouldn't be
surprised if Bill "I predict global cooling" Gray has said similar
things.
Such statements strike me as just as irresponsible as "global warming
destroyed NOLA". I would expect a properly qualified something like
"there
is no evidence that GW has cause more or more severe hurricanes" as the
strongest justified sceptical statement.
I think, to be fair, that this is much closer to RP's views (it might
be even more precise to say that there is no _significant_ evidence for
increase hurricanes, or alternatively that there is no evidence for
increased _impacts_, rather than that there is no evidence at all for
any change in hurricane stats). In fact he just emailed me to object to
being equated to Glassman - which I didn't mean to do, and don't think
my previous post can reasonably be interpreted as doing. Nevertheless,
his praise of Glassman which I referred to (and a link to Glassman's
article on TCS) can be found at:
http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/pr...eding_the.html
I don't see any misrepresentation in what you said either. I understand and
even agree with in pricipal, RP's point, but I think he went too far in
granting any moral high ground to TechCentralStation given the quote you
highlighted above, that is the exact same crime RP praises them for jumping
on.
It isn't hard to find Bill "I predict cooling" Gray saying similar
things too:
http://www.discover.com/issues/sep-0...over-dialogue/
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You don’t believe global warming is causing climate change?
G: No. If it is, it is causing such a small part that it is negligible.
I’m not disputing that there has been global warming. There was a lot of
global warming in the 1930s and ’40s, and then there was a slight global
cooling from the middle ’40s to the early ’70s. And there has been
warming since the middle ’70s, especially in the last 10 years. But this
is natural, due to ocean circulation changes and other factors. It is
not human induced.
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Note he's not actually saying the hurricanes have nothing to do with
warming - but he is saying that the warming itself has nothing to do
with anthropogenic forcing.
James
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