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Old October 28th 05, 07:51 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
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Default HISTORY!!! Alpha, The 22nd Tropical Storm of 2005 is Now Official. Welcome to Global Warming!!!


Scott wrote:
Lloyd Parker wrote:
In article ,
Well Done wrote:

"Coby Beck" wrote:

How long can people go on shrugging it all off?


Some of the folks who are "shrugging it off" are Hurricane scientists,
who know what is going on. They INSIST this is NOT due to any global
warming.



Well, the actual scientists are saying we simply don't have enough information
to know. They're not out there insisting GW is to blame or not to blame.



The only known effect global warming has on hurricanes is
that they are reduced when El Nino is active. Period.



Hurricanes depend on warm ocean water for their strength.


True. But the relationship is not linear and depends
on other factors, most notably vertical wind shear.


Scott


Wind Shear itself depends on heat, specifically, there must be a
reservoir of heat in one location and a reservoir of coolth in a
location within a distance sufficient to interact.

For this reason there have only very rarely been hurricanes in
December, January and February, although they are recorded as historic
truth. Hurricane season started early this year and looks like it will
end late (one tropical storm nearing hurricane strength now, and a
second one gestating nearby it at this minute), because the cold pool
is sufficiently suppressed at a distance away from the warm pool so
they don't interact before the hurricane is fully formed. Once formed,
hurricanes are more resistent to shear than infant storms, as we saw
this past week with WILMA.

At the moment the warm and cool pools are so close together that storms
have great difficulty forming. This will not be true under a warming
arctic scenario. There are two perpetual pools of polar opposites then
in close enough proximity to generate the vortex but no pools of coolth
to generate the shear. The hurricane-formation pools are the SST and
the cloudtops of -70oC or -80oC which will never change under any
scenario.

The only shear left in a warming world is the hurricanes themselves
interacting on each other. The planet would then be fairly said to be
"boiling" with hurricanes dissipating heat as they do, mechanically,
unthinkingly, and remorseless about the chaos they produce to life at
the biosphere level.

You can't generate shear out of your pocket, and have no tame
leprechans which will save your ostrich buttocks from the impact of
your very poor decisions to turn your life over to oil monopolists
control.

First their products make the Hurricanes, then it costs $100,000,000 to
evacuate from the hurricane consuming their products, then they raise
the price of the product because of the hurricane. Apply, lather,
rinse, repeat.

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