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Old November 10th 05, 01:49 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,uk.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
Peter Wilkins Peter Wilkins is offline
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Default Water vapor feedback is rapidly warming Europe!

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:56:57 -0000, "Alastair McDonald"
k wrote :


Try reading to the last paragraph. It begins "The strong increase of
longwave radiation is shown in the study to be due to increasing
cloudiness, rising temperature, rising water vapor,
and above all to long-lived manmade greenhouse gases."

And since you may have found that sentence too long, it ends " ... and
above all to long-lived manmade greenhouse gases. " It does not
mention GWB because it is concerned with the science not the politics!


Geez Alistair, you really won't let me have my little bit of fun, will
you? My original post was in response to Rogers which started off "A
new report indicates that the vast majority of the rapid temperature
increase recently observed in Europe is likely due to an unexpected
greenhouse gas: water vapour."

I was so doubled up laughing that anyone could believe and actually
say that water vapour was an unexpected greenhouse gas that I couldn't
read much further. So they did pin it on mankind after all, although
I could be a nit-picker and say that it's not just CO2!

But I'm still puzzled - I thought more water vapour in the atmosphere
was a GOODS THING as it means more clouds and reduced solar
insolation. So shouldn't we hurry up and burn more carbon? (sorry,
just joking.... I think....)

And sorry about the delayed response to acknowledge the correctness of
your post: I only just found it. My new newsreader is inexplicably
marking posts to this newsgroup as "read" even though I have it set as
"watch". I can't cope with this new technology - or perhaps it is
just than my newsreader is smarter than I am. (I see you nodding your
head in agreement..)

Keep smiling and keep posting - I find your posts some of the most
rational and informative in this newsgroup - amongst the few that are
worth reading.

But I can't completely agree with your statement that this newsgroup
is concerned with science, not politics. I do agree it SHOULD be!

Regards
Peter

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Regards,
Peter Wilkins