On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:23:21 -0000, "Alastair McDonald"
k wrote :


It sounds as though you are following this thread on the
alt.global-warming or uk.environment newsgroups which I agree
should not avoid the politics. I am following it on sci.environment
where a few professional scientists post stuff worth reading too!
This probably applies even more to sci.geo.meteorology but
you do get even more dross in along with the pearls in these
big groups.

Thanks for that and for the other info too, Alistair.
Most interesting.

I've added sci.environment to my subscribed list and, if it looks as
good as you say, I may just keep that and drop this one (alt.global
warming).

The "marked read" problem is proving very elusive to solve: only some
posts are being marked read, not all. None of Rogers get marked read
before reading. :-)

I noticed recently that your Australian environment minister, a
Campbell, was weakening on global warming. Luckily for Howard
focus on that has now been removed by the discovery of suicide
bombers. Apparently they were using the same methods as
the London bombers, the ones who distracted attention away
from Tony Blair's attempt to get George Bush to sign up to Kyoto
at the Edinburgh G8 meeting. (Well this is going out to
alt.global-warming so why not a little conspiracy theory :-)

Our local conspiracy mobs (the Democrats, the unions and some of the
more extreme greens) are saying that Prime Minister Howard coerced the
State police forces (all controlled by Labor State governments
politically opposed to Howards Liberal Federal one) to make the raids
on the terrorists just to take the public eye away from his Industrial
Relations Reform bills currently before federal parliament. Can you
imagine State Labor governments bending over backwards to help their
hated political opponent? Very likely, I'm sure! But as the proposed
reforms would bring us into line with New Zealand, they must be pretty
extreme, so any action against them must be justified! Oops, sorry,
too much off topic.

And Campbell is not one of our most admired ministers, he tends to
waver in the breeze a bit. I still tend to believe, despite all the
doom and gloom alt.global warming postings, that the Kyoto Accords are
largely a waste of time, effort and money that would be better spent
elsewhere, and that our technology initiatives with China & the US
show some promise of providing better bang for the buck in eventually
solving (or at least alleviating) the climate problems, whether it be
the current global warming or a possible future ice age.

--
Regards,
Peter Wilkins