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Old December 16th 05, 04:46 PM posted to sci.geo.meteorology
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Default Another dumb "dewpoint on tephigram" question (picture included)

You were right the first time by following the mixing ratio line (blue). The
example shows just how easy it is to saturate a dry airmass by deep
mixing/lift. Granted this much lift (900-660) is quite excessive, even for
the US High Plains.

Furthermore, whoever posed this problem needs to check his/her own work. How
can fog, a ground based phenomenon, occur at 660mb in this scenario?

Honestly have never heard of a "Tephigram" before, in reference to a
SkewT/LogP diagram. Interesting. More interesting how you're using what
looks like official British stationery from the 1950s. Hope that's not an
original :-D

"Billy" wrote in message
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Hello , meteorology wizards.

The problem as it stated:
Non-saturated air parcel is adiabatically lifted from 10 C 900 mbar up
to 660 mbar, where fog appears.
I ploted it on the tephigram:
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ewpoint7ma.jpg

The question is:
What the dew point temp of the parcel @ 660 mbar, @800 mbar?

For 660 mbar the answer is rather easy - it's around Td= -17 C.
For 800 mbar, i got confused:
a) assuming that water mixing ratio is const, we follow blue line and
get Td =-15 C for 800 mbar
it looks like it's too high for this pressure level, maybe I should
b) follow the red line of wet adiabat to get Td=-5 C , which seems more
reasonable for Tparcel=0 C

Thanks in advance for your answers.