On 24 Jul 2006 13:21:27 -0700, "Prosecute EXXON Stockholders for Global
Warming Heat Deaths" wrote:


Christopher P. Winter wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:07:33 -0500, "Nosmo King ."
wrote:

"raylopez99" wrote in
roups.com:

Here's a list that nobody can dispute because it's from a reputable
publication (Money Magazine / CNN website) not some crank posting from
his basement (Roger Coppock).


[snip list of temperatures]

So what? Mostly desert areas of the southwest US. Your list means nothing
in the GW debate. Why do you continue to make a fool of yourself?


To give Ray his due, he wasn't claiming that this has anything to do with
GW. Just the opposite in fact, if I'm reading between the lines correctly.

There's no "reading between the lines" required. READ THE FREAKING
LINES.

[snip]

Verify for yourself the truth behind Ray Lopez.


[big snip]

I went to Google Groups and read many of the posts that Ray Lopez''s
profile pointed to, including the one with the long list of organizations and
the amounts they received from ExxonMobil.

What I saw there is someone confessing to using trolling methods to a)
get responses on posts and b) identify the unreliable posters.

I myself have learned that, in many newsgroups, it's more effective to
make a statement than to ask a question, even one of the approved kind (that
is, the non-clueless kind.)

I also know that I have a tendency to want to correct posts I view as
erroneous, and thus I sometimes snap at flamebait. So I find it hard to fault
Lopez for (a) and (b), in and of themselves.

However, if he is a shill for big-money energy production interests like
ExxonMobil, I agree that should change how he's treated here. I'm not yet
convinced he's guilty of that. Perhaps you can point me to some more
evidence?

His posting of a long list of ExxonMobil payments to various groups is
not proof he had anything to do with those payments. Rather, by making those
details public in one organized list, it suggests he opposes such payments.