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Old September 26th 06, 07:07 PM posted to sci.environment,sci.geo.geology,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology
Thomas Lee Elifritz Thomas Lee Elifritz is offline
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Default EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!

El Guapo wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
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EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT 12,000-YEAR HIGH!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE AT HOLOCENE MAXIMUM!!!!
EARTH'S TEMPERATURE WITHIN 1K OF 1,000,000-YEAR
MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong El Nin~os to become permanent El Nin~o!!!!!!!!!!!

AP article
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/...5global001.cfm

The actual article in PNAS currently free to the public.
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0606291103v1

[Note the highly unusual inclusion of political references in
this scientific paper. I haven't exhaustively surveyed the
history of PNAS, but l doubt the the reviewers at PNAS would
have allowed this before. Science has taken the gloves off!]

Global surface temperature has increased


"This evidence implies that we are getting close to dangerous levels of
human-made pollution," Hansen said in a statement. "If further global
warming reaches 2 or 3 degrees Celsius, we will likely see changes that
make Earth a different planet than the one we know. The last time it was
that warm was in the middle Pliocene, about 3 million years ago, when
sea level was estimated to have been about 25 meters (80 feet) higher
than today," Hansen said.

So, if the planet wasn't getting warmer, would it be getting cooler?
Wouldn't that also make it a "different planet than the one we know?"
Or does Hansen believe that the climate would just stay the same
forever, if we would just stop adding greenhouse gases? If so, has he
not looked at his own charts?


You are imagining an ice age that is no longer going to happen. Some of
us like to stick with reality, the hydrocarbon combustion, the warming.

I think that's what bugs me the most about people like Hansen. If the
global temperature was falling instead of rising, he would still be
crying about how we were sliding into a new ice age, and the government
was doing nothing to stop it.


The government and corporations have already stopped the ice age.

That little reality thing, remember? Reality on Earth is like a powered
rocket with no inertial control. Inertial control is clearly possible.

Science is what makes inertial control possible. That's reality.

So, no, are you still having problems with reality?

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