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Gianna wrote:
Keith (Southend) wrote:
[...]

What worries me is I can't see an answer, it will only stop when
mankind
starts to wipe itself out, or more than likely the planet we have on
loan. I really don't see any viable alternative energy sources that
will seriously feel the gap for our needs and as for the greenhouse
tax's, what a joke, meaningless, it doesn't stop the emissions!

I'm sure someone (or two) will put me straight on some of my thoughts,
tell me i don't know what I'm talking about as far as a fuel crisis is
concerned or say I'm a fascist or something grin, but I just don't
see
how "we" are going to stop this roller coaster ride of global warming.


And suddenly, a solution was at hand ...

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2033071.html?menu=

By which time the monitor lizard or three-toed sloth will have evolved
a large brain and will fill the ecological niche left by humans. This
time the new large-brained creatures will not suffer from ego,
selfishness, greed and irrational beliefs and John Lennon's utopian
vision will be realised.

One can only hope.

Martin


... or not.

--
Gianna


Hey I liked John Lennon as much as the next man
but......................................
......imagine no possessions? Why he didn't even try.


I have to say this subject of irrational doom really does remind me of
sucking Lemons (not Lennons)

I'm sure someone remarked something like "we've only borrowed the planet"

Okay but it does beg the question of who did we borrow it from, and how long
did they have it. What about, did they do that well. As far as I under
stand it during the last 4.3 billion years, the only thing that has been
constant has been the litany of cataclysmic disasters. Wiping out whole
life forms.

We Witter on about the warming of the planet and the role of evil humans in
that process-well excuse us for trying to survive!
Excuse us for trying to avoid being eaten, of avoiding freezing to death, of
avoiding being riddled with the parasites that plague all other live forms
in their natural state. Maybe we should be excused of trying to stay warm,
trying to not starve..

During the last two hundred years average global life expectancy has risen
from around 30 years to 67, don't forget that's average in the more
developed countries it's even higher: Do you fancy going back to 1800
again?

How about another four hundred years further back?
http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/Cou.../Day6/ages.PDF

This is very telling

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_ex...ine_for_humans


Now humans have managed all this, and a major factor was intelligence and
harnessing energy; food and fossil fuels. There was or never has been the
luxury of choice. It only because of the meteoric rise in the human
condition that we now do have the luxury to wring our hands in angst over
the state of the planet, with friends at dinner parties, whilst eating a
high protein, good carbs meal. The trouble is that post world war II we have
become complacent, we've forgotten how tough. how cruel life once was.

Without Humans utilising fossil fuels they would have struggled to survive.
But we have, it's incredible what humans have achieved in the Neolithic
period, and the remarkable accelerated process in the last several hundred
years is nothing short of phenomenal.
The real struggle has to be first finding alternative energy source that
doesn't push capitalism into a major world recession. We are still in a far
better position than at any other time in human history.