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Count LeChance VonShnaps wrote:
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I just noticed this run:
Nov 28 06:29 Dec 5 00:25 Dec 12 14:32
http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclips...hases2001.html

For the unwashed this is the code:

(I have to repeat this every so often as the more knowledgeable among
you tend to lack insight and find the idea of new ideas far from
ideal.)

OK, the wet weather in the NW Atlantic basin occurs off the UK with a
Low at the appropriate longitude and latitude off Iceland or points
south to Spain. Where the Low is is governed by the harmonic set up by
the astrometry that also times the phases of the moon.

And for the above appears to be when the phase is around 1:30 am or pm.
A little earlier and the weather is still wet but not so intense. A
little earlier still it is more like drizzle or mist, and yet earlier
still and it is fine.

The code goes roughly like this:

5 am or pm and it is anticyclonic.
1:30 am or pm very wet.
6 or 12 am or pm misty.

And this run of spells is for misty. Or rather they all just miss that
spell by 30 minutes. (Well last weeks and this weeks does. !4:32 is
more like an hour out. Except it is a weak spell in my not
inconsiderable opinion.)

Looks interesting is what I mean. What it is is something like half way
to another severe typhoon and the typhoons seem to drag with them a
series of large mag quakes. If that happens, the cyclones in the North
Atlantic will go north again and not break on Norway and dissipate. A
situation akin to a negative NAO.

So we have two half past misties and a half way to thunder coming up.

I would like to stay up and discuss this further but one has work on
the morrow and thus needs to retire and cogitate as there is no longer
time to do the thing properly and vegetate.


One must always allow time to vegetate although I hardly consider feeding
the mind a waste of time. I have learned more on the internet over the past
10 years about weather, history and many other subjects than I did attending
college and obtaining a degree, including all school prior to that. I would
have liked to gone into meteorology but the classes required to become a
true meteorologist are not something I would have enjoyed in the least, in
fact, I would have hated most of them. Ironically, I find weather to be the
most interesting of all my hobies, it's unfortunate that so much **** is
involved and one must learn so much useless drivel to become a
meteorologist. I am convinced that with a 3 month training course, I could
do the job as well as or better than many of those clowns I see on TV every
night, it's the guys behind the scene that have the tough job. If an
individual has internet access, there is simply no reason to pay any
attention to the local weather man as the NOAA forcast discussions go well
beyond anything that is convered on TV. In short, the Weather Channel is a
joke, although their storm stories can be interesting.

Speaking of the UK, what is the single worst storm you recall? It seems
that UK weather, for lack of a better word, is quite boring. I mean, that's
certainly not a bad thing but it seems rather predictable, where as the
Upper Midwest, where I grew up, is quite the opposite. I mean, the highest
point in England in just shy of 1,000 meters so I can't imagine the
topograhy plays a big role and you are too close to the ocean to receive any
severe winter weather. You are too far north to get what would be
considered a bad tropical cyclone.

I feel fortunate that I grew up in an area where we experienced all kinds of
weather, from blistering heat during the summer, as high as 40+ centigrade
to bitter cold, -45 centigrade. Not to mention the severe thunderstorms
during the summer which are the result of being close enough to Canada to
get the occasional shot of cold air, even in late June. The real severe
weather season starts in March though, I've seen temps of 30 degrees
centigrade on March 30th followed by terrible blizzards, no more than 2 or 3
days later. You get everything in the Upper Midwest, except Hurricanes of
course and I can certainly do without those! Only a complete buffoon would
want to experience a hurricane and we've seen plenty of those here in the
states, some of them have traded their large egos for their lives.

This might be an interesting link for you, learning what a harsh climate is
all about. The other side to this is I've been to London in July and found
the weather to be absolutely wondeful, temps in the low 20's, no wind and a
nice soft breeze. Something you normally don't get where I live in July! I
am in Kentucky now and the average high temperature in July is 31 degrees
with humidity levels around 50 percent, on a good day. On a bad day, 40
degrees with humidity levels in the 70's. As for British weather in the
winter, it stinks. I wouldn't mind your summers though, even all the
overcast days would be better than the heat!


http://climate.umn.edu/doc/historical/winter_storms.htm


I believe the UK to be one of the most interesting places on the planet
to study the weather. It is certainly the most beneficial for all
interested parties including eccentrics such as myself.

Not that the USA is short of them having no few with the ability to be
struck by lightning and stirring the nation up in arms about aliens and
flying saucers.

Your records such as they were in those days starting with that storm
of 1830 for example, has a marked similarity to what can be found in
the records of the UK. Of course since we were colonised considerably
earlier, they go back considerably further.

Of course had you paid more attention to the lore of the people you
exterminated...

But who can say aught about that now?

The UK is like the North American continent writ small. Although the
database due to blockades by it's warships has made it a master of the
Atlantic.

Where you have a massive data base examining a wide field of study, we
have very small meteorological regions exhibiting the same effects. Of
course whilst it does mean that any knowledge gained from such studies
is fruitful, the chances of them occurring during a time set by some
college course to study them could well relegate it to the province of
the amateur.

But here are plenty of them and few reports of spacemen to go with
them.

Now both countries have a massive infrastructure capable of serving the
planet and it does, as far as the internet extends to them. But sifting
out the duds form the good stuff can be a bore.

You get to recognise those whose input is negative and those who are
mere copy and pasters and those who have insight. And those who you
wish to follow.

And those you get tired of PDQ.

Now down to our respective physics.

Yes there are few large hills and nothing worth note that we call
mountains. But what we do have has some notable weather effects here is
one example:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...37e6df8 f45cd

What makes the UK special as far as I am concerned is that almost all
of the phases of the moon answer to it, or do I mean that the other way
around?

I get the impression that fairly few parts of the USA that respond to
all of them. And those phases inducing the strongest/most remarkable
effects are restricted to few of them; though there again they react
large.

Take Florida for example. When due to a run of similar phases, the
spell in Britain is a long wet one, Florida too will have some regions
that are rather damp.

On the other hand parts of California would be experiencing phenomenal
heat -even drought, for those same spells and almost invariably just
before the spells end, wildfires.

YMWV.

I can't recall any single storm. A chapel a mile up the street from me
had its roof lifted off when I was sleeping one time. Another occasion
I saw a singularly smelly red tide.

I don't remember uch about the storm that washed out the sea wall that
caused the flods I do remember. As far as I know it wasn't that much
different form the usual run.

Perhaps the swell was at just the right angle in just the rght harmonic
for just the rightr amount of time to do the damage.

Some of the carpenters working for the firm I was with about then were
working the beach shelters on the sea front when the tide came in and
washed over all their tools. I missed that one too.

The lad I worked with was driving the firm's van at the time. When he
got back to them the tide had turned and all the lads were gathered on
the embankment opposite on the promenade where they were working.

Just sitting there stunned apparently.

But boring? I suppose it was just one of those "you had to be there"
moments. That prom is always a good place to be in a swell, as the
waves smash into the wall and throw pebbles over it. Quite a lot of
debris gets left there on occasion.