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Old January 11th 07, 05:22 AM posted to sci.geo.oceanography,uk.sci.astronomy,uk.sci.weather
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Default Chirality. (Who invented that other title I wonder? Some dafty, no doubt.)


Sjouke Burry wrote:
Michael Mcneil wrote:
"TeaTime" wrote in message


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Forgive me for sticking my two-pennorth in, but aren't all those phenomena
attributable to the Coriolis effect?


In other words the spin of the earth is moving all the things loose on it?

It is attributed to it but only because the platitude is the only
suggestion that tickles the ears best. It's not verifiable and the
northern cyclones run the wrong way for that explanation (or is it the
other way around.)

In essence, the planet's rotation sets up this directional acceleration
effect, which is also thought responsible in part for the complex currents
in the Earth's core which give rise to the drifting magnetic poles (and the
occasional reversals thereof).


The ocean flow in the N Atlantic basin is some 30 million cubic metres
of water per second through the straights of Florida and 80 million
past Cape Hatteras. (According to the 1998 Encyclopedia Britannica.)


If Coriolis' "force" can do that then it must have the force to do it to
aircraft of insects or both?

And it should be noticeable to fairly mobile objects on the surface
-such as us. Shouldn't it?

In the dim past we calculated the effect on a
steamloc going fullspeed north in Norway.
The coriolis force on that loc was about 100Kg
(or about 1000 Newton).
So thats very small for such a heavy loc.


What is a steam loc?

It seems to me that you can balance a bottle on its head just as easily
on the equator as you can in the poles, given a stable platform.

And that there is no apparent difference in the ease of it for any
location and it doesn't make any difference how large the bottle is.

Am I being extra specially thick today or am I correct?

I am not saying that there isn't an effect and the one known as the
Coriolis effect doesn't exist, just that it aught to be called
chirality the same way that all the other exhibitions of the effect are
called chirality.

But I have an hangover and can't think of any other examples at the
moment so help yourself to a search.

I have read too that this effect is not reckoned to be a force but I
can't get my head around how it manages to shift major currents like
the surface wave called the gulf stream. Not only that but add to it
from time to time with the elemental forces of tempests.

Abracadabra.