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Old February 16th 07, 10:22 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
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Default Confidence 60% still in snow next week.


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Despite reservations from others, I'm still 60% confident of very
cold
air
coming into UK next week from the east.

Err, forget what I said earlier, I'll match your 60 and raise you 5
;-)

Jon.

PS have a look at EC :-)


He he full blown retrogression. Awesome.

I'll raise you 5 :-)

Will.
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I'll have some of that, I'll raise you 10. My reasoning is this. 20
years
ago this current synoptic would have delivered for the UK, however in
these
globally warmed times (be it man made or not) the warm SST's around our
shores will push this monster Artic HP SE. Again we will find the Greek
peninsula to be the recipient. 20 years ago the advancing cold air
wouild
have met a warm Meditarenean, thus encouraging rapid cyclogenesis in
this
area, this in turn would anchor the Artic monster. Instead this time
the
advancing cold air on the Monsters Eastern flank will meet little
resistance
further East over the Turkish plains and inevitably the monster will
sink
into the subtropics and die!

We shall see, but the last 10 years suggest my crude analysis to be the
sensible outcome!



Interesting theory and some older runs did just that and it cannot be
ruled out.
Difference with latest runs is that the high develops a bit faster and a
tad
further north. Latest 12Z JMA keeps it mild by keeping the high further
east as
per UKMO. Latest 12Z GEM is pornographic, dragging air in from Siberia
with a
1050 high over Scandinavia :-) NOGAPS follows GEM. GME looks cold at
T+72. GFS
is cold.

So I make it 2 runs for mild and 4.5 runs for cold, giving 55% chance
cold based
on operational run NWP alone.

ATB,

Will.
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Got to admit Will it has a Jan 11 1987 look to it, except the Atlantic is
far more awake this time!

also a small matter of 10-15dam diference TT

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive...0119870113.gif