Paul Rooney wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:53:35 +0100, Howard Neil
wrote:


Paul Rooney wrote:


On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:33:42 +0100, Howard Neil
wrote:



Fran wrote:


said...




By the way, Y Mynydd Du is pronounced "er minith dee" the "th" being as
in "the" rather than in "think".


Close. Try 'muh-nith dee'. You're right about the hard sounding
'th' though.

Have a listen to Cefn Gwlad next Wednesday, S4C, 9.0pm.


It's not 'muh-' to a northerner.


What is it then, please?


The so-called neutral vowel. Y can be the same as i in 'thin', but
here it's like the -er in 'copper' or the o in 'button'. A bit like
southern English u.

Thanks. That sounds the same as here in West Wales (and as I originally
posted).

--
Howard Neil
(western end of the Brecon Beacons National Park, at 235 metres asl)