"chemist" wrote in message
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On Aug 1, 5:01 am, Roger Coppock wrote:
On Jul 31, 8:10 pm, (Eric Swanson) wrote:



In article .com,
says...

"Unfortunately,
small changes in the models can lead to a broad range of outcomes,
inviting debate over the actual causes of climate change."

So Models are Useless when it comes to forecasting future
climate .

The"statistical approach seeing it as puzzle" is my approach
and I have come to a very different conclusion than the
Professor. I have looked many more variables than he and my knowledge
of Astronomy and History has led me me to the conclusion that
the greenhouse effect is a myth.

Please provide a calculation of the Earth's temperature without the
Greenhouse Effect. Don't forget that convection, which operates in
parallel with the IR losses from the surface, cools further.
Then compare that with the actual measured value.

To do that calculation, Eric,
Tom would need to have . . .

(drum roll)

. . . a model.

Roger
I could show you and the rest that the science
of AGW rest on very shaky unprovable principles.
I could demonstrate that the "warming" effect of CO2
is reducing as its concentration increases.
That your assertion that Southern Ocean does not
affect the global temperature continuously is false.
That correcting the temperature for such effects
would destroy the relationship between CO2 and
temperature.
These facts indicate that CO2 is increased by the
rising temperature
That the reduction in the amount of Solar energy
reflected from the Earth accounts for the warming
of the 1990s .
That the Global temperatures have been contaminated
by UHI and that they have been manipulated by scientists
in order to support AGW (actually it took only 2 or 3
scientists to do that)
No doubt you and your ilk would deny that such facts
endanger your theory but the do.
It is not skeptics such as myself that are in denial
it is you and the scientists behind the IPCC
You and they are in denial of the developing science that offers
other explanations of the warming.
You probably have more facilities wealth and information
than myself and you could discover most of the above facts
for yourself but you will only look at your side of the argument
and call all your opponents liars.
In the past you have accused me of being a pervert,of being obsessed
and in need of medical attention.You call all your opponents Fossil
Fools and pretend that you are a scientist.
I can assure you that you are not.

Bravo!
Hey Poppycock open your mind and you MIGHT see something!

Regards

Bonzo

"The IPCC is, in fact, trying to predict the state of a very complex physical
system a full century out when, on the panel's own admission, scientists know
nothing about most of the variables in the model (page 16 of the physical
science summary of the IPCC's fourth assessment report)" Mark Lawson