On 31 Aug, 19:54, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Welcom back Al. LTNS.

On Aug 31, 9:26 am, Alastair wrote:

It is nice to see a few old names still here after my sojourn in other
realms of web space :-)

Presently, I am inflicting RealClimatehttp://www.realclimate.org/
with my heretical views on global warming,

They are not heretical Alistair, just wrong.

It's daft to jump to one conclusion when there are many alternatives,
not least of which is our savage treatment of the sea. Or did you
expect god to allow it to be fished to oblivion and no abreaction?

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...rctic-sea-ice-...



310 wayne davidson Says:

I am a little puzzled by the met office no longer displaying sea ice extent
yearly projections until 2100. I am getting convinced that the ice and Polar
atmospheric models were off by 10 to 20 years, would have really
appreciated seeing their projections still, as I am curious about how
we take it from here. Is the met office ice model merely wrong
timewise? It will be very good to understand where the error is,
especially compare the 2007 melt with 2007 projection, it would help
narrow down a bug, and perfect future models. I don't think its bad
to be wrong, it is terrible when you can't know why.

As with the hurricane/glowballs hullaballoo when the records got
broken in 2005 and here we are in 2007 with a dearth, there is perhaps
a cycle to these things.

I feel I did quite a good job with 2005 and furthermore I couldn't see
anything outstanding showing up in 2007, so if I had said there
wouldn't be many hurricanes this year, I'd have been able to prove it
is lunarcy.

Next time I hope to know a bit more.

I actually know where the models are going wrong but I am sure that
the MetOffice do not.

What is this reason you mooted?.

Someone, who cannot spell 'lunacy', would not be able to understand
that the Greek forest fires are caused by millions of rich westerners
driving 4x4s, rather than the few hypothetical Greek arsonists who the
ruling Greek governing party find it convenient to blame.l

Is Yannis still around?