"Exterminate" - Your posts are basically so dishonest, psychologically
sick and politically stupid that I shouldn't be responding to them at
all.

I happen to share some of your frustration with the Bush
Administration and in fact with a lot of the Republican Party .

However, it's just idiotic to assume that tens of millions of people
are just the same -- because they happened to vote for the same
political party in the last election.

It's stupid to assume that these people can't change their minds and
vote Democrat or Green or whatever the next time.

And it's stupid to assume that even the Republican pols are never
going to change. This isn't to say that I want to vote for them - but
some of them are no worse than many of the Democrats on a lot of
issues you probably care about.

Including the Iraq War, for one thing. And including government
social spending, if in fact you're in favor of government social
spending. And certainly including global climate change.

Go luck up the GW stance taken by the current Democratic governor of
Montana, Schweitzer I think his name is. His state has lots of coal,
and he wants the coal companies to exploit it in order to produce jobs
and tax revenues for Montana, and so he's enthusiastically pushing for
"clean" coal development.

If you're looking for a state governor with a good record on GW from
an environmentalists's perspective, GOP governor Arnie Schwarznegger
of California is a hell of a lot better than that.

Or go look at the GW politics of Sen. Robert Byrd of coal-dependent
West Virginia sometime. Sen. Byrd was one of the cosponsors of the
Senate resolution in the late 1990s that basically declared that the
US would not ratify the Kyoto Treaty or be bound by it, even after Al
Gore helped to negotiate it.

Or go look at the GW record of Rep. John Dingell of Michigan, the
"Representative from General Motors."

If you want to know why the US can't make at least some progress on
CO2 emissions by ordering the Detroit auto companies to meet higher
corporate fuel economy standards and higher gas mileages for American
made cars -- Dingell is your guy.

If you want to make the case that Democrats like Dingell, Byrd and
Schweitzer are going to do great things on fixing GW while Republicans
like Arnold Schwarznegger are supposedly dragging their feet,
"Exterminate," you're just not dealing with reality.

Which again is not to say that I think enviros should vote Republican,
or that I will. But we need to be honest about this stuff.


As for your whole screen name -- "Exterminate" -- if this isn't
really, really sick, and a little evil, it's stupid. And I think it's
all three - sick, evil and stupid.

It's sociopathological to call for genocide against a whole group of
people -- Republicans, Democrats, or whoever.

And if you're not really sick enough to be sincerely calling for the
"extermination" of all the GOP, then you're just bull****ting us,
which is a waste of time. Go play in heavy traffic, asshole.



On Sep 15, 7:17 pm, "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans"
wrote:
"john fernbach" wrote

Exterminate -- I agree that the Bush administration is awful; they've
done all of the evil economic deeds you're talking about, and I hope
you and others kick their butts in the next election.

I'm not a U.S. citizen. If I were Bush would already be executed for war
crimes, mass murder and treason.

"john fernbach" wrote

But why don't you stick to the topic of this usenet group, which is
"alt.global-warming"?

Look at the header, this thread is also going to
sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology, sci.geo.oceanography.

AmeriKKKa is the primary impediment to progress in this world, and once the
AmeriKKKan state has been eradicated, the world and it's environment will be
much better off.

"john fernbach" wrote

When you post a lot of partisan political statements in the
"alt.global-warming" group, you probably are giving a lot of people
the impression that global warming is a
partisan issue --

You don't see any Democrats claiming that it's all a massive conspiracy
perpetrated by virtually all of the worlds scientists. And you don't see
real think tanks (as opposed to industry propaganda organs like the
KKKonservative Heritage Foundation and the CEI) lying to the public in
support of ever higher levels of CO2 emissions.





And it isn't. I wouldn't vote for most of these guys, but there are
Republicans as well as Democrats in the US who are waking up to the
danger of the climate change situation. And, in some cases, to the
economic advantages that their states may gain by moving to address
the climate change and CO2 situation.

Examples of Republicans who have been taking important steps at the
state level to deal with CO2 emissions and climate change now include
Charlie Crist, Republican governor of Florida; Tim Pawlenty, GOP
governor of Florida, and of course California's GOP governor Arnold
Schwarznegger.

On the national level, meanwhile, GOP senator and presidential hopeful
John McCain has been speaking the truth on AGW for some time now, and
has co-sponsored legislation to deal with it.

None of these Republicans is secretly doing "LIB RAL" & Democratic
bidding on this issue, Exterminate. McCain is pretty damned
conservative on most issues, and so apparently is Crist.

But they're also smart enough and honest enough to recognize the
threat that CO2-driven climate change poses to their states, and
indeed to the whole country, and so they're formulating "Republican"
approaches to it.

Given that the American electorate has recently been pretty evenly
divided between Republicans and Democrats, I think you need to be
acknowledging the CLIMATE contributions that these GOP politicians are
making.

Otherwise, you're just playing into the game of the AGW Deniers, and
putting a "Democratic" tag on the issue of climate change that is
guaranteed to keep millions of Americans from taking it seriously.

One day I might run across a RepubliKKKan who isn't a chronic and congenital
Liar.

Until that day - I say Hang the entire lot of the ****ers.

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