On Oct 21, 10:36 pm, "HangEveryRepubliKKKan"
wrote:
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There are a variety of alternate markers that tell
exactly the same story world wide.

It also is entirely consistant with my memory of when
the winter months started and ended 40 years ago, compared
to where they start and end now.

Thank you, whoever you are.
It's nice to have someone on this forum who
knows the difference between weather and climate.