On Nov 26, 9:23 am, LiquidSquid wrote:
Scientists always need a engineer to provide practical applications of
their hard work. Just like an engineer needs a scientist for creative
thinking in new directions. Hopefully I can provide some balance to
some of these overly-emotional debates on "global warming" which
concerns me. Partly the emotional side concerns me, and partly the
circumstantial evidence of global warming I see up here in NY.

You're welcome. Few scientists visit here any more. Those
of us that do don't post much, especially on global warming,
since most of the people are only interested in hearing overly
emotional opinions that agree with theirs, or arguing profanely
with those that disagree (especially those cross posting from
a couple of other newsgroups). Facts, at least to the extent
that they can be ascertained by science, seem to be little
appreciated.


Being a realist, I think global warming is a good thing for where I
live, as we have (seemingly) 11 months of winter and 1 month of really
bad sledding in a normal year, and now we are down to a more
reasonable 3 months of solid winter and this last summer was sunny,
dry, beautiful. If that is what global warming does for me, bring it
on! As I am lugging in wood for my heat yesterday, grumbling to
myself, I am thinking "it sure would be nice if propane wasn't so
farking expensive!"

About where are you? Here in the middle of the state I don't
mind the winters too much (and I arrived after 20 years in the
Mid-Atlantic states), but I suppose if you're up in the Tug Hill
or Adirondacks you could reasonably feel put upon by the
extent of winter. OTOH, I know someone with a propane
business, and as you suggest below those associated with
winter sports, who happen to like colder weather, so one's
point of view often depends on whose ox gets gored. Also
while warmer winters will decrease grape vine deaths from
extreme cold, too warm will not allow for ice wine production
(that almost happened last winter). Some apple varieties
need a certain amount of cold to produce fruit the following
year. Again, one's reaction may depend on what one has
at stake.

Then it dawned on me: I need to convince other
people to quick burn the peat bogs in Russia so I wont have to lug in
all of that wood for so long each year. Either that or turn the peat
into compressed logs of it, and sell it to people to burn in 3rd-world
countries that have already denuded their countryside so they can cook
Tiger and Gorilla meat.

j/k. I am a conservationist at heart, an believe we should all be
using renewable resources, but with the quantity of people in this
world, it will never happen. That makes me sad. This is one problem
that is impossible to solve unless you are uncaring or extremely
selfish.

So perhaps the ski resorts will be in for a tough run, and people in
3rd world countries will need to migrate, yet again. Such is the way
of the world.I just am wondering when the climate will change to the
degree that rushes will grow in the deserts. That is when I will start
to worry.

-LS

Well, stick around and see if the climate, both globally and
in the newsgroup, improves. :-)

Cheers,
Russell