On Dec 14, 9:04 pm, Harold Brooks wrote:
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On Dec 14, 6:23 pm, "Will Hand" wrote:

I'm not disputing the Arctic has warmed a lot either

I am.

Don't you mean it's got hotter?

The thermo-haline physics of the place will ensure a pretty constant
temperature average until almost all of the ice has gone.

If it doesn't, there is something wrong with the data presented.

Or there's something wrong with your understanding of the problem. It's
not a discussion of the ocean temperature, it's the air temperature.
You might be able to make an argument that there's an upper limit on the
average air temperature over the sea ice when ice is present, but the
temperature could be much colder than freezing and could have increased
dramatically without even reaching 0 C.

Quite right.

How was I to understand the reading of air temperatures over the
Arctic?

At what height would the Stephenson screens be set on the drifting
floes and how would you account for data affected by tidal
fluctuations raising and lowering said meteorological stations?

OK. I accept it was all done by Russian and USAn submarines and the
data adjusted to the best of their ability. And carefully collated
over the period of the cold war and then released a few years back and
has, since about 2005-2006, been released to the general public.

I really should have got around to reading it.

Or not, as the case may be.