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Old June 28th 08, 09:37 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
N.E Zephyr N.E Zephyr is offline
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"21 replies just to little old me and not an ounce of meteorology
" anywhere in it."

and what would you know about meteorology?
A self proclaimed forecaster? with made up stats.

Are you qualified?

NO

Internet fodder, as I expected.




Dawlish wrote:
On Jun 28, 8:32 pm, "N.E Zephyr" wrote:
Oh, look here comes the "not enough consistency" for a forecast crap.
You dont do forecats when you going to be wrong then?
You do see the met office saying, "no forecast for the weekend, we will
be wrong"

You cant qoute accuracy stats when you dont forecast consistently.

Idiot.



Dawlish wrote:
On Jun 28, 1:32 pm, "Col" wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message
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On Jun 28, 12:01 pm, Ian Sutherland
wrote:
N.E Zephyr wrote:
Another pointless, and wrong forecast, or crapcast as I should say.
Who are you trying to impress?
For goodness sake, grow up.
I don't think my stalker undestands the difference between forecast
and commentary Ian! It's a crap forecast even when I haven't actually
forecast anything and on the day that the forecast, or commentary is
made! The forecasts are crap when they are correct, or incorrect and
crap whether it's a forecast, or not. At least he's consistent.
That's exactly what I consider your postings to be, your musings on
upcomimg possibilities/sceanarios and what might happen if certain
events do or don't happen. So not a forecast as such.
--
Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Not in this instance Col. There's just not enough consistency, at
present, to forecast at T240 with any decent chance of success. The
Met Office has had exactly the same difficulty over this last week,
having, ignored the possibility of a temporary spell of hot weather at
the start of July, issued on Wednesday of this week, when it was being
shown on the gfs - but again without the consistency that I need for a
forecast. See the other thread and you'll see what I mean. Crazily,
that hot weather is stil not certain, by any means; the coming plume
may still not make it to the UK, or may only clip the SE. I don't
blame them in the slightest. I believe that the probability of
outcome, using whatever method you choose, to forecast at 10 days
plus, is very low, most of the time, for whichever agency, or
individual tries their hand at it. The Met office is truly caught
between a lake and a wet place. They just can't say that this, or
that, could happen. The public expects more than they are capable of
at that distance.
Even at a 4days, at the moment, most people expect the Met Office to
be, at least resonably, correct for next Wednesday's weather. Anyone
with any real meteorological knowledge would know that next
Wednesday's situation is fraught with difficulty. Will Wimbledon get a
sunny, humid, hot day, or will there be downpours? Or, will the plume
have toppled, leaving SW14 in azure blue skies, with white cumulus and
the outside possibility of a shower The detail is truly impossible and
probably will be up until much closer - perhaps even until late on
Wednesday Morning, as regards a decent forecast for the tennis.
The only reason I try my hand at occasional forecasts is to experiment
with trying to recognise when that possibility of a weather event/type
10 days hence, rises to a point where what is being shown on the
numerical models is actually likely to occur 10 days later.
I'm very aware of the fact that the Met Office has to forecast (lake
and a wet place, as regards public expectation and forecasting
capability, as I've said and many times that 10 day(ish) forecastwill
goes under - last Wednesday's was a good example) and the spread of
6-15 days in that forecast and the ambiguity and lack of forecast
detail shows the difficulty they have and the lack of confidence they
have in that forecast.
There's half-hearted attempt at desribing some of the forecasting
difficulties that the Met Office forecasters face on a daily basis, in
"The Tombs" magazine today, but it only tells a very small part of the
story.
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21 replies just to little old me and not an ounce of meteorology
anywhere in it. You just gained the key to the door stalker!!