"James Brown" wrote in message
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breathes sigh of relief - wondering why the ECMWF hasn't been updated on
their site from the 00Z

The 12Z run usually gets in around 1900-2000Z-ish on EC's site but it can
often be seen on Wetterzentrale a little earlier.

As an aside the winter forecast update is due Monday morning
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/.../winter2008_9/

Jon.