On May 2, 7:31*pm, " wrote:
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On Apr 30, 10:51*am, What A. Fool wrote:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:19:14 -0700 (PDT), "

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On Apr 28, 11:21*am, What A. Fool wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), "

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On Apr 27, 9:12*am, Bill Ward wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:45:43 -0700, wrote:
What about at the molecular level. A piece of black charcoal on the
ground is hit by light ... [then what happens ...]

It gets warmer...

Carbon atoms get motion, Some of that motion causes radiation into
air? Some of that motion transfers from touching air molecules
[conduction]? There is no convection in this first step? How much
"heat" transfers from radiaton and how much from conduction?

* * * * * *A good question. * * *Apparently there is good scientific
measurements of conduction with coefficients of thermal conduction
in charts in engineering books.

* * * * * I would love to find that type of information for Infra-Red
radiation.
* * * * * There are infra-red detectors, infra-red optical devices,
but I guess none that can measure the amount of energy
radiated by a square meter of various materials at various
temperatures.

* * * * * I will be looking for that information if it is ever
available.

this is interesting

http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0502/0502041.pdf

* * * * * There is no question that cosmic rays can affect clouds
and the upper atmosphere-ionosphere, but pinning down any
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Leaving the introduction of energy to the biosphere from other than
the sun for one moment, if it is the case that there are differeneces
between the interface between the ground/ocean and air, as against the
purely gas regions above, and there clearly is, then logically form a
probability perspective you would expect different rates of adjustment
to the same stimilus in both regions.

It would be a miracle if at 15 seconds past sunrise the atmosphere
above caused cooling of exactly the amount that the earth below
warmed.

I tell you one thing they get a lot of bloody cloud up and down in the
60's latitudes:

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ign...1_0_DN.obs.jpg
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And clearly the precipitation in the tropics peaks with the heat and
at the poles with the cold:

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CO2 we know stays in the atmosphere for lets say 100 years.

http://www.kfoa.co.nz/faqs.htm#5

Though when water vapor turns to liquid water up there I guess more
CO2 dissolves into it than say O2 or N2

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ga...er-d_1148.html