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Old May 13th 09, 07:51 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,talk.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
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Default Current Monthly CO2 Level at Least 800,000-Year High whenmeasured in the Cone of an Active Volcano

On May 13, 2:21*pm, Catoni wrote:
On May 12, 11:54*pm, Last Post wrote:





On May 12, 4:51*pm, Roger Coppock wrote: CO2 Level at Least 800,000-Year High!


According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
389.47 ppmv. *This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.


Also, according to the IPCC WG1 AR4 list of robust findings:


* *"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
* * and their associated positive radiative forcing,
* * far exceed those determined from ice core
* * measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."


•• More AGW hogwash
* * NOAA takes measurements on top of an active volcano


* * Talk about loading the dice.
* * Then they talk about "positive radiative forcing"
* * which is nothing more than a smokescreen for
* * junk science.


- -
In real science the burden of proof is always on
the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
neither IPCC nor has anyone else provide one
iota of valid data for global warming nor have
they provided data that climate change is being
effected by commerce and industry, and not by
natural phenomena.


Yes, atmosphereic CO2 is indeed monitored from the largest active
volcano in the world.



It's a near dormant volcano. Lots of expensive equipment up there. No
way would they put that there if they thought there was a chance of it
becoming active any time soon. The last outgassing event was 1984.

Not what I would think to be the brightest
idea. What they say they try to do, is to make adjustments for out-
gassing of CO2 from the volcanoe. How well they are able to do that,
how they do it, and how precise their adjusments are, I'm not sure.
There should certainly be questions asked and answered.


The questions have been asked and answered and the data show no spikes
that would be consistent with an outgassing event. Just the same
pattern of seasonal variation every year. The site is chosen because
of its remoteness from CO2 emitting activity and its height.

* *In my opinion, there are far better places in the world to measure
atmospheric CO2 then the top of an active volcanoe which belches that
very gas from the crater and several vents and cones and the
occasional lava flow.



Have you written to NOAA with a detailed set of proposals showing
comparative feasibility for each of the sites?


* *What bright mind came up with that location ? *



Charles Keeling, apparently.

And who were the
bright minds that agreed to it?


His peers. It has stood the test of time. This predated interest in
mitigation policy by a very long time.

Fran