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On May 12, 11:59Â*pm, Catoni wrote:
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Â*Fran... you might want to check your math... Â*Unless my math skills
have fallen off very sharply as I age, (inevitable, over time I
suppose), then 2000
is 526.3... % of 380 . Â*Lets say 526 %to make it simple shall we? We
really don't need use decimal points in this case.

Â*Or .. if we wish to say that atmospheric CO2 is now 385ppmv, then...
it would come to about 519.5%

Â* Â*To be honest, my original rough guess of 600% was indeed wrong as
well. Both of us need a math refresher course I guess. Â*

Â* Double checking.... It looks to me as if I am correct now. Â*Can you
see
where I might be mistaken Fran?

Â* I can't remember what it is you teach Fran,,,but it's not math I
take it..

Â* Â*My point is that in the last 500 million years... CO2 has been
much
much higher then now...
Â* Â*During the height of the reign of the dinosaurs, as much as 500%
and more, then it is now.

Â* If you take the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere for that time
period, then right now, we are pretty well close to the bottom of the
chart.. Â*Relatively very little CO2 in the atmosphere... Â*I suppose
that's why they call it a "trace"gas... because there is only a trace
of it... Thank goodness too, or we would have no photosynthesis.. Â*No
or very little life on Earth... Â*it's vital... And some people are
now
labelling it pollution...
Â* Â* Â* Please don't give me the analogy of a little bit of cyanide.
That is such a worn out poor analogy, and has been used here before
by
Alarmists ad nauseum.

Â* Â*CO2 is almost as low as it ever has been to the best of our
knowledge.... Â* so I see no cause for
alarm at all.

Â* Â*I would like to make another point if I may,,, Â*that in the
original post by our dear friend Roger Coppock, the statement that
the
level of CO2 in the atmosphere now reaching the level that it was
800,000 years ago is very badly in error, if it is not an outright
lie.

Â* Catoni

••Â*Actually, paleoclimatologists have written that every
time CO2 has exceeded 300 ppm an ice age has
started. By Roger's chart that must have passed during
WWII.

If true, that would explain many of the violent climate
events of the past 60 years.


You seem not to be firmly AGW, but the most violent
climate events did not occur in the last 60 years, pray that
there are no more floods like killed more than a million
in China many years ago, cold summers like after the
big volcanos, etc.

http://www.epicdisasters.com/index.p...by_death_toll/

http://www.hurricaneville.com/historic.html

http://tornadoeshurricanes.suite101...._in_us_history

http://www.ezl.com/~fireball/Disaster15.htm


Chances are the Derecho winds are not just a recent event, they
may not have been cataloged before;

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/AbtDere...rechofacts.htm

Some events seem more violent now because more
people live on the rivers and coasts.

From all indications most of the jump in annual global
average temperature claimed by GISS is from changes in
methods, instruments, units, precision, computer rounding
and locations of weather stations, along with the standards
of those weather stations not being of the needed precision
for such manipulation.

But technology and knowledge with awareness may
reduce fatalities substantially.