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Old August 8th 09, 01:06 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
Dawlish Dawlish is offline
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Default Arctic ice melts quickly through July

On Aug 7, 7:44*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Aug 7, 1:02*am, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:





"Graham P Davis" wrote in ...


Lawrence Jenkins wrote:


You two are typical greenies. You're not happy unless there's some
fictional disaster in the offing.


You silly little man. Well I'm quite big actually 6' and very strong


here's nothing fictional about AGW and what's


happening in the Arctic. I used to produce ice charts forty years ago and
the current Arctic situation is lighter than any year I remember from the
60s and early 70s - and there's still more than a month's melting to go.


I'm not denying your experience but you are rather rude without any humour
so here goes.


And *you silly old man: No one has ever denied 20th century warming albeit
hansens slant on the past temps and dodgy land based current measurements.
The real issues *are this: *are humans the cause. Why will a slightly warmer
earth be worse. The measures to stop us warming the earth to a temperature
that may be more beneficial would cost trillions. And finally the past ten
years despite Co2 rising has shown no discernible increase in temperatures.
By the way that Arctic and Antarctic ice is lookin' pretty good sunshine


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What exactly has the state of Antactic ice got do with GW, Lawrence?

Now do I remember asking you that before and getting a nil reply.
However, you are still using it to back your silly ideas about the
globe not warming. No matter how much you are shown that it has and
still is, you do the typical denialist response and keep repeating the
same iodiocy about the ice "looking good" - when every Arctic
scientist worth his, or her, salt tells you is patently isn't.

Put floating ice in water that is warming slowly and over time and
notwithstanding short term synoptics, or ice movement, or short-term
changes in ocean currents and it melts. Now do us all a favour and
actually look at this graph and the 30 year trend.

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph....extent.1900-2...

Not linear; not a decrease every year on year; not every season's ice
amount shows the same response BUT every season has declined since
Graham was plotting ice extent in the 60s/70s - or do you view that
graph differently to any normal human being?

Oh - don't forget the question I asked of you in the first sentence of
this post. Remember the; "having to justify", statement that brackets
you and my stalker?- Hide quoted text -

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Wel Lawrence? Still waiting...........