"Philip Eden" philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom wrote in message
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"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote :

Look I don't keep local rcords okay, but something different has just
happened , something on an October nightI can't say I've seen since at
least 1995 in the SE of London.Obviouisly statistically there's a good
chance I may be wrong but I've just seen off my son at these wee hours of
the morning and I was taken aback at just how cold the night air was , in
fact when I checked the roof of my car there was ICE. Is this something
special or am I just too sensitive
FMS (Faulty Memory Syndrome) at work, Lawrence. Don't
worry; most people suffer from it.

The average date for the first radiation frost (used to be called 'ground
frost', is sometimes - bizarrely - called 'grass frost' by the present
generation of weather preseneters, but in fact the effects can be
seen on cars and other freely-radiating objects) in and around Penge
is about 10 October, with a range from 24 August to 26 November.
The average and extreme dates for air frost are, very roughly,
about three weeks later.

Philip


Well that may be true Philip bit it's the earliest I can remember for the
past ten years. I usually notice these sorts of things