Surfer wrote:
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:23:38 +1100, B J Foster
wrote:
Arthur Brain wrote:
On Dec 10, 3:22 pm, "o nb o" wrote:
So Easy A 6th Grader Can Do It!
How many 6th-graders publishing in Nature, Bozo?
One of the fall-outs from the exposure of the emails referring to a
'trick' and 'hiding the decline' is ipso-facto proof that Nature either
did not peer-review the articles or the peer-review process was flawed.
(No-one could possibly have repeated experiments with non-existent data)
That is incorrect.
The reason is that independent repetition of experiments requires
other research groups to independently collect THEIR OWN RAW DATA.
As it happens, CRU's results have been independently reproduced by the
following groups:
The National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) of the National Oceanographic
and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) in Asheville, NC, USA.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/...ies/index.html
I looked for their raw data. I found this:
"The basic tenet of physical climate data management at NOAA is full and
open data access".
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/about/op...ata-policy.pdf
....yet...on the eve of the Copenhagen conference and in the midst of the
CRU controversy:
"Global Climate at a Glance
is undergoing maintenance to improve its function and update its data
feed. A timeline for its return will be posted on this page".
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/gcag/index.html
(no timeline posted)
The Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS), part of the National
Aeronautic and Space Administration (NASA) in New York.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/
Incidentally GISS seems to be making its data and computer programs
publically available.
Sure - as well as the issues:
"As there are other potential sources of error, such as *urban*
*warming* near meteorological stations, etc., many other methods have
been used to verify the approximate magnitude of inferred global warming"
Quote from:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/
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Programs used in the GISTEMP analysis and documentation on their use
are available for download. The programs assume a Unix-like operating
system and require familiarity with FORTRAN, C and Python for
installation and use.
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Table Data: Global and Zonal Mean Anomalies dTs
Plain text files in tabular format of temperature anomalies. Anomaly
values indicate the difference from the corresponding 1951-1980 means.
* Global-mean monthly, annual and seasonal dTs based on met.station data, 1880-present, updated through most recent month
* Northern Hemisphere-mean monthly, annual and seasonal dTs based on met.station data, 1880-present, updated through most recent month
* Southern Hemisphere-mean monthly, annual and seasonal dTs based on met.station data, 1880-present, updated through most recent month
* Global-mean monthly, annual and seasonal land-ocean temperature index, 1880-present, updated through most recent month
* Northern Hemisphere-mean monthly, annual and seasonal land-ocean temperature index, 1880-present, updated through most recent month
* Southern Hemisphere-mean monthly, annual and seasonal land-ocean temperature index, 1880-present, updated through most recent month
* Zonal-mean annual dTs, 1880-present, updated through most recent complete calendar year
* Zonal-mean annual land-ocean temperature index, 1880-present, updated through most recent completed year
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