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Old December 12th 09, 04:59 PM posted to sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.global-warming,uk.sci.weather
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Default Why isn't it colder?

I M @ good guy wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:50:42 -0800 (PST), Dawlish
wrote:

On Dec 11, 7:37 pm, Bill Ward wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:42:57 -0800, Dawlish wrote:
So exactly why should I care what you think? You seem to avoid any
thinking that would enable you to understand what I'm saying. If you're
not even going to try, why should I waste my time on you?

Why try when even if I talked pure physics, you'd continue to believe
what you do? You know you are right Bill, even though generations of
physicists would disagree with you. You also appear to "waste your
time" with an awful lot of people who you don't feel understand as
much as you do.......

Unfortunately the outcomes, in terms of rising Global temperatures,
are leaving you behind.


This is unbelievable, it is as if every reply
was written by the columbiaaxxidentinvestigation
nutcase, all about the person, very little technical
discussion.

Everybody knows the atmosphere has to be
cooled, the AGW crowd simply will not accept that
greenhouse gases cool it.

But they make no attempt to tell what they
think could cool it, by denying that GHGs cool it,
they leave a mystery, and gullible people must
love a mystery.

No telling when Canada will get out of the
deep freeze, and somebody asked why it isn't
colder.



IMAGG, you keep trying to generalize the special case of stratospheric
cooling by CO2 onto the whole atmosphere. You have to consider the two
separately because different physical laws dominate.

It is absurd to talk about GHGS cooling the atmosphere without
mentioning that they are also responsible for warming the atmosphere in
the first place. It's like saying that when I light a logfire, the
burning logs keep the fireplace cool by radiating heat.