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Old December 24th 09, 09:16 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
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Default HadCRUT global temps at the *lower* end of likely warming.

On Dec 24, 8:33*am, Brian Wakem wrote:
Col wrote:

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Dawlish wrote:


It does rather burst the denialists'; "there has been no warming",
bubble. How can someone say that when faced with this*?


Give it a rest Dawlish - you are becoming very boring.


Do you think that the denialist/conspiracy theory nonsense
ought not to be challenged?


It can't be challenged with data that has been manipulated.

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Brian Wakem


5 sets of data Brian, from 5 different sources, one (UAH satellite
data) which is produced on a monthly basis from a scientist who is a
hardline sceptic (Roy Spencer); all manipulated? As all 5 data
sources correlate very well statistically over the last 30 years,
you've surely got to admit that the warming trend shown clearly in all
5 measures is highly unlikely to be wrong? That's what convinces the
scientists and politicians - as it convinces me that GW is a reality.

The cause is a little less certain, but 1/10 (90%; IPCC odds) says to
me that CO2 is the driver. Others would go 100%, but I'm not fully
convinced yet. However, if this moderate El Nino produces more any
more monthly record warmth over the next year, as the Hadley Centre
has predicted (FWIW, I think the same) I'd go 1/20. At either of those
odds, a bookie would have closed the book.