"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

FFS can't people get a grip and some perspective.

WITHOUT THE USE OF FOSSIL FUELS HUMANS WOULD HAVE BECOME EXTINCT TENS
OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO
You are a liar. Fossil fuels played little or no part in prehistory.

Small amounts of coal near the surface were exploited from around 200BC
in China but that is as far back as it goes. A few local surface
outcrops in the UK were drift mined from Roman times. Newcastle had
industrial scale coal before most places with active mines in the 13th
century. Until the late middle ages mostly they used wood, charcoal or
animal fats for heat and light.

Coal only became really important after the 1615 Royal Proclamation
forbidding the use of wood for glass making and so spurring on the
industrial revolution. The remaining wood was needed for shipbuilding.

Mineral oil was even later before people really used it seriously. First
successful oil well dates from 1859 in the USA. Tallow, beeswax, plant
oils and whale oil were the preferred materials in antiquity.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Sorry for seemingly telling lies Martin, ah I see your problem it was the
fossil fuel reference, I should have said wood, bones and peat etc which
when burnt for survival immdeiatly released Co2 and other greenhouse
gases.

You are a pathological liar and are now making things up to try and
justify your original lie. The phrase that constitutes your big *LIE* is
conveniently all in capitals at the top for all to see and laugh at.

You are a perfect example of why paranoid lying rightards and their
pretend fantasy "dittohead science" cannot be trusted.

Human control of fire and releasing Co2 was one of it's most significant
turning points in survival. Warmth, light, cooked meat, foods and
protection from dangerous animals.

Which was all based on renewable sources until very recently. Whale
numbers are still suffering from their utility as lamp oil and later pet
food.

Of course the fossil stuff came much later , but never the less that
really doesn't change what I said does it. Without the harnessing of
fossil fuels most of us e wouldn't be here let alone communicating via
Computers which are still powered by fossil fuels the last time I checked

It changes what you said by 180 degrees. You are a pathological liar.

By the way Martin, liar is a very strong word and a tad uncalled for.

Not at all it describes you perfectly. It is clear for all to see.

There is no chance at all that humans would have become extinct thousands
of years ago without fossil fuels. It was an outright lie.

Regards,
Martin Brown


Martin a lie is when you know you are not telling the truth I happen to
believe in what I've said so you could argue I'm wrong , mistaken etc. but
please don't use that word liar.

Without the industrial revolution which could only happen by the harnessing
of fossil fuels then we would live in wretched sad miserable conditions.
People like you are not only rude but are totally talking out of their
backsides. If you cannot recognise the facts that we live far longer are not
riddled with syphilis, gonorrhea, polio (which I had by the way I just
missed out on the vaccine) and a whole host of bacterial and viral
infections that were stopped in their tracks by the science and industry
based of the energy released by fossil fuel then there can be no arguing
with such ignorance of the facts.

It's you that are the liar as you desperately revise history to suit your
own agenda.