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Old May 16th 10, 09:29 PM posted to sci.geo.meteorology,uk.sci.weather,alt.global-warming,sci.environment
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Default Smack down by Latif of much of the climate science of past 30 years?

On Sun, 16 May 2010 15:36:26 -0400, T. Keating
wrote:

On Sun, 16 May 2010 09:26:55 -0700 (PDT), Meteorologist
wrote:

IPCC scientist: Global cooling headed our way for the next 30 years?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/1...next-30-years/

Please comment; for the time being I take
no position myself; I am merely seeking
the truth thru usenet conversation.


Nothing to argue (Again not a peer reviewed article), except.. Winter
in the northern hemisphere will still start in late December and end
in March.. .

As for fish kill in Florida....

We finally had some NORMAL winter weather like those we used to
experienced 15-20 years ago. I.E. Oranges freezing, a couple of new
daily lows(same for Cuba), and it also killed off a bunch of
non-native species (Pythons, Iguana's, Fish). No surprises..

(P.S. It didn't kill all the Iguana's, there were survivors, they'll
be back.)

From what I've read, most of the cooler/snowy weather was a fluke
event, set up by a strong high pressure zone entrenching itself over
Greenland. That forced the jet stream to dip down into eastern half
of the US for an extended period of time.. I.E.. A LOCALISED
EVENT...

As for record amounts of snowfall on the Eastern sea board.. That's a
sure sign of warming temps, not cooling. Large snowfalls require
higher levels of moisture in the atmosphere and those maximum moisture
levels are determined by atmospheric temperature (higher of course).

I think that covers ALL of Mojib Latif's evidence..


As it turns out.. Latif didn't make those claims..

http://climateprogress.org/2010/01/1...g-mojib-latif/
"Latif told me: "I don't know what to do. They just make these things
up. NSIDC Director Serreze says it is "completely false.""

"He had me reread the quotes attributed to him a number of times,
asking twice, “those are direct quotes?” After I did, he said to me:
“I don’t know what to do. They just make these things up.” "


Sorry, but this is just earth's climate being a normal chaotic system
being driven by a number of factors, some of which are very old, like
orbital tilt, distance from sun, sun's angle of incidence, solar
output variability, and some are new like the accumulation of Green
house gases, albedo changes, volcanos erupting or lack thereof.

The daily/weekly/monthly outcomes in any particular region will never
be sure thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory