In message , JJCMayes1
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I was wondering today whether there has ever been a winter (Dec, Jan &
Feb) where the temperature has not fallen below zero. Lets say somewhere
in the far south of England.

As you pointed out, if a winter is frost free, there is often a frost in
spring. To get around this, if we look at the calendar year, Southsea in 1974
failed to go lower than +0.2. Headlands on the west coast of Britain also
stayed above zero (Hartland Pt., Dale Fort, Bardsey Is.). One site on the west
coast of Scotland and one on an island (Islay) dropped only to 0.0. Some places
in Cornwall stayed above in the warm year of 1949 - and probably in other warm
years too.

Of course, winter 1973-74 might not have been frost free at Southsea, but the
Monthly Weather Reports of the Met Office show that there were air frosts in
Nov. and Dec. 1973 so the winter half-year 73-74 was not frost free.
Interesting case of a combination of a warm sea and urban warming effects. I
would not even dare to look up urban rooftop records ( :-) ) but London Weather
Centre must have come close in some years, as has St James's Park.

If warming continues as scenarios suggest, it will be intersting to see how
often the air frost free year occurs. It might occur in the the centres of
larger cities - if only they all still had (ground level) observing sites.
Maybe not this winter though, if journalists are to be believed....

Julian
Julian Mayes, Molesey, Surrey (still waiting for first air frost this season).


I have been mildly amused by the young lady doing the weather
presentations on Sky News this afternoon. She has been emphasising how
"VERY cold" it will be tonight in the south of England (her emphasis on
"VERY") with temperatures falling to around 2c. I would have described
that as

"not a particularly cold night but maybe a touch of frost on the
ground"

It is probably the case that young adults today have quite a different
perception of what is "typical" or "normal" weather than old farts like
me have. To put it another way, I probably haven't moved on with the
times :-) I do wonder what will happen the next time there is a
significant widespread snowfall over the south of England. As has been
mentioned before on this ng there is a whole generation of drivers with
little or no experience of driving in severe winter conditions. I'm glad
my daily commute these days is only one flight of stairs from the
bedroom to the office:-)

Norman.
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Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St Giles
England