On Oct 14, 11:55*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
"Alastair" wrote in message

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On Oct 14, 8:07 pm, Richard Dixon wrote:

Dear All,

http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/...-9326_5_2_0240...

This may provide an interesting read and maybe discussion.

"Lastly, one can invert the title of this paper and
ask ‘Does the occurrence of lower/higher solar activity
make a cold/warm winter in Europe more likely (than the
climatological mean)?’ Our results strongly suggest that it
does, which has implications for seasonal predictions."

Richard

Here is a description of a related paper:
Oct 7, 2010
Sun's role in warming the planet may be overestimated, study finds

From the Guardianhttp://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/news/43969

Cheers, Alastair.

Lets get this straight. the sun's role in warming may be overestimated.

What a tanker load of Guano. *Ermmmm.......please name me the primary
sources of energy that diminish the non consequential role of the sun. What
an over rated, over-hyped ball of fire that is . Sod it lets get this clear
the Thames Estuary wind turbines **** on the sun and its ilk

That's pretty good, Lawrence, (no, it really is) and I'm
actually grinning as I write this but I shouldn't be because the dim-
witted headline enables climate-change sceptics such as yourself to
evade the issue in a gale of hilarity. The issue is that solar
variability doesn't seem to have the effect on the temperature of the
Earth's atmosphere that we might have thought it should.
Only having read the Guardian summary I can't really comment
on the mechanism, which is not explained, at least as far as regional
variation goes. Is there an increase in blocking? This would account
for colder European winters, given the preferred longitude of many
blocks but is blocking more frequent when stratospheric temperatures
are higher? Another point is whether the global mean was colder
during the Maunder Minimum (1645-1715) or was it just Europe?

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey