On Dec 25, 8:34*pm, Trevor Harley wrote:
On 2010-12-25 18:00:46 +0000, Adrian said:

On 2010-12-25, Trevor Harley wrote:
Whatever happened to making predictions and seeing what happens, rather
than interpreting evey piece of evidence post hoc in support of your
theory?

I think you missed the bit about the paper having been submitted for
publication over a year ago. It is a shame the process of review has
taken so long.

Adrian

But last winter was cold too. A few years ago when we were having dire
wet mild winters several papers were being cited then showing they were
just what GW predicted, too. Still, time will tell.

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Trevor
A little sceptical in Lundie, near Dundee
Weather throughwww.trevorharley.com

Time will tell. The Independent's hack has woken up to Petoukhov's
research. Good for him. Lockwood's research from 2010 also points to
something similar. Both are interesting possibilities, but Keith's
point about it being decades until research points to one, or the
other theory being verified by outcomes is what we'll have to wait
for.

I don't agree at all with your point that whatever happens, it's due
to GW. That's just a soundbite and would not be reflected in the
scientific iterature, at all. Regional variations will happen and
whether individual ones can be linked to GW is just moot. Actually,
probably not even moot; I'd go for highly unlikely. This cold
December, in the UK and parts of last winter, are down to unusual
synoptics at the moment; there's just no proof of anything different
happening. If any other factor is at work, it will take a long period
of time to show. Meanwhile, GW unequivocally continues, whether, it is
causing these events, or not. Again, whether that GW is caused by CO2,
though extremely likely, given the avalanche of excellent, peer-
reviewed research, that I'm sure you'd appreciate, still has room for
debate - but not much, given that November 2010 had record global
temperatures (GISS) and the meteorological year 2010 is a record for
the GISS sequence, despite a plethora of cooling influences, not least
moderate La Nina conditions and a 3.5 year solar minimum, which is
just beginning to end.

Paul - still a tiny bit sceptical in Dawlish, but, in the words of the
forgettable Paul Daniels; "not a lot".