"Col" wrote in message
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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:



Not any more Keith you need to understand that the cooling has set in
in earnest the last several months. Don't forget local weather
doesn't equate to objective globla measurement.

If cooling has set in in earnest during the last few months it
hasm't yet had an effect on Arctic sea ice which is looking
pretty woeful at the moment.
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm

Yes I know this is a 'snapshot' at any one time driven
by synoptics rather than climate change but I thought it worth
mentioning as this graph is often used (misused?) by the
deniers as 'evidence' when there is rather more ice than
one might expect.

I wonder that if this cooling is real, when we will see this graph
trending to more ice.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


Surely the Arctic ice is effect by NH synoptics, when there's major blocking
with northerly's like recently exporting fridgid arctic air all the way down
to western europe, eastern asia and the midwest to the eastern seaboard USA
then warm air has to replace it. As Ian Currie mentioned recently it's as if
you've left the fridge/freezer doors open. Cold frigid air pours out and
warm air replaces it so before you jnow where you are your pork chops are
defrosting. What goes up must come down. Lets face western Europe has just
gone through an exceptional cold period and somewhere along the way the
balance has to be paid.

I did say in two posts that I was wondering whether this was some sort of
error in the measurements and if not well then of course its only been over
several days, never the less its hard to find such sharp dips in temperaure
over the last 12 years as plotted by the surface layer ch04

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem....csh?amsutemps