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Old December 30th 10, 06:08 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
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Default Joe *******i Now being proved Correct on Falling Global Temperature


"Keith (Southend)G" wrote in message
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On Dec 30, 9:11 am, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:
In message om,
Lawrence Jenkins writes





"Keith (Southend)G" wrote in message
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On Dec 29, 10:36 pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
At first I thought this was a mistake, a quirk, but no there seems to
have
been a remarkable plunge in the near surface temperature record
http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem....csh?amsutemps


It is now lower for the 28th December 2010 than at any time since
1998;
that
is some drop that I've seen no one else predict bar Joe who has been
proclaiming this would happen since this time last year. Surely he
deserves
some praise and not the petty treatment he gets here on many an
occasion.


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Well done Joe, unbelievable ;-)
Dave


I thought someone posted on here a while ago saying that globally 2010
was going to be the third warmest year on record, have I mistaken
something?


Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"


Not any more Keith you need to understand that the cooling has set in in
earnest the last several months.


If you look at your own source you'll see that there is an annual
variation in global mean temperature. (This is a result of the greater
proportion of land in the northern hemisphere, and hence greater
hemispheric annual variation.) The cooling over the last several months
is normal.

Don't forget local weather doesn't equate
to objective globla measurement.


Also, don't forget that short term fluctuations don't equate to climate.

In the specific case of the sharp fall in global temperatures over the
recent past, I suspect that is in part due to the albedo effects of snow
cover at lower latitudes.

http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover..._year=2010&ui_...
358&ui_set=2
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley


The point is, and this is the reason I mentioned it, is it seems you
can always dig up some definitive information to back up your views on
GW, one way or the other, so in the end it all become meaningless.

For me the shrinking of the arctic ice mass is the best thermometer,
which *may* reverse, but there's no obvious signs atm!

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"


There's far more sea ice in the SH then the NH Keith and that has been
running well above average these last several years and possibly long, so
why isn't that a thermometer? The major differnce is that the SH sea ice
due to open water in every directyions doesn't last as long in the SH summer
early autumn as it oes in the NH