On 04/15/2011 11:13 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
On 4/15/2011 1:42 PM, Tom P wrote:
On 04/15/2011 02:42 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
On 4/15/2011 2:20 AM, Tom P wrote:
On 04/14/2011 02:54 AM, Peter Franks wrote:
On 4/13/2011 5:43 PM, ShyDavid wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:29:28 -0700, Peter
wrote:

On 4/11/2011 4:39 PM, Roger Coppock wrote:
The satellite record, in all its current interpretations,
shows that the air near the surface is warming.
For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements

The URL below is one of the more conservative records
from the University of Alabama at Huntsville.
http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.4
The global data are graphed he
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg

The Remote Sensing Systems Lower Troposphere (TLT) analysis also
shows a temperature rise above the surface of the land and sea.
http://www.remss.com/data/msu/monthl...cean_v03_3.txt





The data from 82.5N to 70S are graphed he
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/RSS-MSU.jpg

The data do NOT show a continued warming. THEY SHOW INCREASING
COOLING,
WITH THE MOST RECENT DATA POINTS BEING BELOW NORMAL!!!

No. And since your graphs (below) show Earth is still warming, one
has got to wonder what the bloody hell you could possibly be lying
for.

http://members.cox.net/peter.franks/UAH-MSU.jpg

http://members.cox.net/peter.franks/RSS-MSU.jpg

How does it show the earth is still warming?

You can get a reasonably accurate fit of the temperature anomaly since
1979 by fitting a linear plus sinusoidal function to the data.
You get a linear trend of 0.14/decade plus a sinusoidal with a cycle of
3.73 years and half amplitude of about 0.13°c.
http://tinypic.com/r/10e4iac/7

Right now we are on the downward swing of the sinusoidal but it will
return to a maximum in 2013-2014.

That's your linear model.

The data itself shows something different, and definitely NOT continued
warming. It may warm again, in the future, or it may not, but in the
meantime, "Latest Satellite MSU Data Show Continued Warming" is patently
false.

Notice how Roger can't even defend his own post.

The calculation shows how all 30 years of measured data can be modelled
with an accuracy of 70% correlation as a sum of a cyclic component plus
a linear component.
Now tell us again about why you ignore 90% of the data.

I'm not. I'm challenging the assertion that "Latest Satellite MSU Data
Show Continued Warming" -- it doesn't.

So we agree that you just have a problem with the subject line wording,
and is this a discussion about syllogisms? Post hoc fallacies?