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Old June 18th 11, 05:32 PM posted to sci.geo.earthquakes,uk.sci.weather
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On Jun 18, 7:34*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jun 17, 8:05*pm, Don in Hollister wrote:





On Jun 17, 8:32*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:


I've been looking at the mechanics of volcanoes, with a view to
establishing a connection between them and the weather.


I'm posting this for Petra as she's having a problem signing into
Google Accounts.


Hi Michael,


The kind of weather you're trying to associate with volcanoes might be
better served with observation of Space Weather via geomagnetic
activity and X-ray flux. *Solar Activity excites the earths inner core
and urges on activity in volcanic locations when such events occur.
You can follow Space Weather at: *http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/index.html


However, it does not require a major flare to induce volcanic or
earthquake activity. Simple continual excitation brings on much the
same and good observation points for the beginner would be in
monitoring activity at The Geysers Geothermal Field, Coso Volcanic
Field and Cerra Prieto Geothermal Field In Baja, California.


Geomagnetic and Solar Flare Activity is well known to usher on
earthquakes not only in volcanic locales, but equatorial and regions
at high latitudes. *Yesterday's events at New Britain, PNG; Nikiski,
Alaska; The Queen Charlotte Islands and the latest M 5.5 in Eritrea
and Southwestern Sumatra's M 5.0 are all products of such activity.


Petra


Hi Petradon

Let me guess your far flungedness has cost you an internet connection?

Did you have fun?

I was looking at the Volcano Islands and Bonin Islands quakes at the
end of last year when we had snow a mixture of phases at 5s and 6s. In
other words highs and Lows. There was a lot oc comment about a
blocking High situation over here at the time too, though I thought
little of it.

The situation only came to an end comparatively recently. This despite
almost all the times f phases of the moon being in the wet spectrum
this year.

Anyway the events in and around Japan were very closely linked with
the series of eruptions that staarted there about November or
definitely by December at least.

I was looking up stuff about HAARp after reading a thread in MIT's
server about the upper atmosphere heating beginning some three days
before the main event in Japan. Honestly some of the stuff on there.
Sci physics newsgroup is a dog-end.

Anyway the HAARP FAQs states there is no way that the ionosphere can
be impacted by the 10Megawats or so they use occasionally. And that
even the solar flares are easily absorbed. Of course this is only in a
dynamics frame -fluid jumps and that sort of thing.

The same people are the ones responsible for the article on
Atmospheric Science so I am not cetain they are pumping on all four
cyclinders.

There is no telling what else is actually passed on through the
ionosphere. Obviously acoustics might. The same site says the noise is
considerable IIRC.

What sort of information do you have to show the coincidence of flares
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Hi Michael,

The G-Mail/Google Problem was truly most bizarre as any screen I
brought up where a sign-in was required it was missing the fields to
enter the User Name and Password. I called Google and they no longer
have live customer support and in time I found a place to simply type
a message and send it explaining the problem and some hours later,
bingo, it was working again.

Anyway, I've been following Space Weather and it's influence on
activating earthquakes in some regions for about five years and while
it's difficult to use for site specific prediction it does have use if
you're watching an area that has unusual activity and simply needs a
nudge to get it going, much like regional or long distance triggering
from larger earthquake events. I performed a little demonstration in
predicting earthquakes from a C-4 flare about a month ago in one of my
blogs and my rate of return was 88.88%. I missed Hawthorne NV which I
predicted a M 5.0 and it arrived as an M 4.3.

The problem with most understanding such correlations is that given
persons who have a casual interest don't issue earthquake predictions
they lack hands-on experience and it takes years of working with
material to make good use of it. Generally it's much like learning to
drive a car, because unless you've done it you have no idea what it's
like and as we know, the more you drive (for most) it improves the
drivers skill and the same could be said about predicting earthquakes,
experience is a requisite.

As for HAARP I do not support any suggestions it has anything to do
with earthquakes and I think overall most don't even understand how it
works, let it alone to take a leap to imagine how it might be possible
to generate an earthquake and to date not one single person has ever
come forward and explained how it may have initiated one single
earthquake anywhere on this planet anymore than CERN. This belongs in
that "let's find fault" for earthquakes crapola and given the earth is
normally going to generate earthquakes and has since it's onset, why
would anyone worry about HAARP or CERN?

However, it seems no matter how much information one may make
available to public in explaining simple issues about predicting
earthquakes to get the lazy out of the talk mode into actually giving
the material their own level of experience usually results in no
action at all because it's easier to say that Indonesia which
encompasses 13 million square miles may experience an event which has
a high likelihood of occurring instead of doing the work. Yet 99% of
them have never accessed an earthquake catalog and if you don't start
there, then you can't learn anything. The virtual library of
earthquakes is an absolute essential in prediction.

So as to your thoughts about connecting volcanic activity to regional
weather it's a huge leap because the earth's interior plumbing is not
affected by storms insofar as I'm aware and I think I've seen a lot in
my thirteen years of observations.

Petra
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