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Old September 18th 11, 08:29 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
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Default New historic arctic ice minimum

"Lawrence13" wrote:

Dawlish wrote:
Why do you think Arctic sea ice will return to the 1979-2008 mean in
the next decade? I don't think any scientist agrees with you.
Certainly no-one in working in the area of the cryosphere does. I'm
not the only one waiting to read your explanation with interest.-
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Natural cooling cycles Sun and Oceans .


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Good that you've returned, I respect that (took some doing, but I do
respect it) but no you can't. I've got no idea what you mean by that
answer and "natural cycles" are just a cop-out. What "natural cooling
cycles", or combinations of them are going to lead to summer Arctic
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The same forces that have always varied our climate long before C02
was seen as an issue.


Those natural forces have been negative (indicating cooling) since mid-20th
Century, while global temperature has increased substantially and Arctic ice
has gone into accelerating decline. See:

http://www.cawcr.gov.au/staff/jma/meehl_additivity.pdf

How can you reconcile these oppositely-directed trends?