On Nov 16, 9:01*am, James Brown
wrote:
James has done a
Larry/April 2010 here.

Not correct as if you look carefully at the graph this is as the title
of this thread indicated, the FIRST time it reached less than the 2007
level this year. I'm afraid by just trotting out the 'snapshot' mantra
you are deluding yourself Paul into thinking the Arctic ice is in better
shape than it really is.

James
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James Brown

It was Will that mentioned "snapshot"; you have me confused with him.
Scroll back and I can assure you that I don't feel that Arctic sea ice
is "in good shape" - I seldom "delude myself" about Arctic sea ice and
if you'd read my comments over the years, you'd know that. The trend
in the Arctic sea ice minimum is downward, but that doesn't change the
fact that short-term, unusual fluctuations in extent during the melt
season are always quickly reversed, as NSIDC shows already, only a day
after your initial post, James.

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...timeseries.png

What you did was to try to highlight short-term Arctic sea ice changes
for your own reasons and not simply as an observation. I wouldn't have
contributed to the thread if you'd simply left the initial fact there.
It's unlikely that November changes portend anything to do with GW (it
is dark and cold and the seas will freeze both now and in 2100 and in
2200 in the latter half of November, no matter what happens with
global warming in the meantime) and if you can show anything that
shows that this, very short-term and already temporary change, has
anything to do with the coming UK winter weather, I'd be amazed and
very interested! *))

Thank you for highlighting the fact that there was a short term,
temporary change in Arctic sea ice. Appreciated, really.